Posted on 07/15/2007 4:20:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Time to fire up a 21st century Crusade.
We’re not using swords and trebuchets this time.
Our efforts in the ME are changing the world. We are neutralizing and removing NS threats in the short-term....while at the same time starting the needed process of dragging the ME out of the dark ages for the long haul...(and of course! such a venture is not going to go without mistakes and misjudgments)...
And there is some similarities to our current immigration issue (curiously enough). That being, we are never going to mass deport over 12 million people.....The same holds true that we are not going to magically make all Muslims like us over night....nor are we going to kill all of them...
What we need to do in both cases....Is create an atmosphere which encourages and allows for a type of self-deportation....In that States that means restrictions and difficulties enough that make the choice of self-deportation back to one's "home" country the most attractive option.
And in the Iraq (ME) it means creating an atmosphere were there is a self-deporatation away from radical Islam in the beginning..(and perhaps away from Islam all together as time passes). Where freedom goes the truth will follow.
In one sense, Iraq was a good candidate for liberalization. While Saddam was a real brute, nonetheless, women and certain religious minorities had rights in that nation they did possess in other Islamic nations. In other words, the process of “liberalization” was going on apace in that nation. Unfortunately, Iraq has a large Shiite minority, which is definately a fly in the ointment.
Not so.
they asked for it years ago
and we did not respond
They are, however, proceeding without us
I believe all bets are off if America is attacked on a scale equal to or greater than 911. Americans are well armed, and if Americans feel threatened, I have no idea how the majority would handle that 'feeling'. I would be very worried if I were a muslim or mex. I am not a muslim or mex, and I am worried. Americans believe they have been betrayed by their own leaders, and the leaders coming forth are a grave concern to some (not all) Americans. The only question to be answered is will Americans sit still if attacked inside our borders again? Not being able to tell the future, I do not know, but the muslims and mex may want to have a plan to leave quickly, if an attack occurs.
Bush is bringing Iraqis into the United States. The city I live near is going to get many. They won't stay here though, they will just grab their free college degree courtesy of the US tax payer and then move to Michigan.
Bush and Clinton have brought in so many moslems and have plunked them around the Great Lakes. I hope the muzzies do not change the name of the Lake Michigan to lake mohammed or something. There are way too many moslems in the US.
Islamists delenda est...
...even how to wipe - a long step by step process. I do not jest.
It is not so much a religion as a system of brain washing - almost to the point of being under constant hypnotism - the trigger to keep them "under" - the 5 times a day the bells and callers call for them to play mass stink bug.
It's that simple.
I wonder if a Muslim were taken to where they would not hear the call 5 times a day, wouldn't they soon forget to do it - or, if they didn't have to fear being turned in (as they can be now) for not putting nose to ground 5 times a day. how long would keep up the practice? And would they not come out from under the mind controlled existence and become human?
On another note - it isn't shown by our media, but our troops in Iraq ARE showing a different way of life is possible along with the fighting.
They have, for one example, started Boy Scout Troops = and the young boys are soaking it up with laughing, joyful faces that you would see in any Scout Jamboree here. They are learning the "the Infidels" are not the monsters they have been taught - ditto the adults with whom our troops interact - invited to homes for dining, etc - That is changing a lot of minds and one reason the tide is turning. But the MSM and the libRats are hoping the American public don't see this side.
Islam, I contend, is not a religion - it is a system of mass mind control. Why does no one dare say it?
Spot on
It runs counter to American thinking to attempt to ban a religious belief or to force one on people. All the “state” can rightfully do is to enforce behavior (through both positive and negative reinforcement) it cannot force values/morality/belief on anyone.
A more obtainable goal would be to strictly force and enforce “freedom of religion and conscience.” We should never have allowed countries we conquered in our interests and security - which is what we did and we should not be squimish about saying so - to establish any form of government that made Islam the state religion. We should insist that all religious (or non-religious athiest) beliefs must be allowed to exist without fear of attack by competitors. It should be the goal of the “established” government to use the power of the sword to punish and suppress those that don’t allow the free exercise (or non-exercise) of the religious dictates of an individual’s conscience. Within reason of course - I wouldn’t want the government to protect a religion that practiced human sacrifice, etc.
In this type of environment, I am confident that over time, Judeo/Christian values will take hold and eventually dominate. I don’t believe in forcing anyone to personally except Christianity (which is only an individual choice), only in forcing them to allow it to be propagated on an even playing field and to provide the practictioners with the protection of the state. However, the same protection must be provided to all peacefull beliefs the same. If Muslims want to spread Islam, as long as it isn’t an anti-government Jihadist sect, it should also enjoy the protection of the state. All that will practice their religious beliefs in peace with others should be protected equally.
In regards to Radical Jihadist Islam....We should use their beliefs against them in any way we can. Those that would destroy us deserve no protection only the sword.
I thought the Shiites were the majority in Iraq, with the Sunnis and Kurds, etc. being the minorities.
Kill funding to madrassas and imams, and kids would have to actually learn a useful trade
"Let's Roll"
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