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Under siege-Are the British facing defeat, as some US officials claim?
times online ^ | 8/12/07 | sunday times

Posted on 08/11/2007 7:22:07 PM PDT by Flavius

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To: ought-six

We STILL have an army,pound for pound,as good as any on earth,mate.

The fact that underequipped and lacking numbers, we have done brilliantly in Afghanistan and well in Iraq merely proves this and disproves your point.


21 posted on 08/14/2007 3:14:42 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: familyop

Montgomery undoubtely had ihis failings.But the American nortion of a mediocre commander is utter nonsense.

Monty may not have been a genius,but he was a fine commander.


22 posted on 08/14/2007 3:16:07 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: ought-six

Self defence is NOT a crime here.

The problem came in the last 20 yrs where idiotic police forces and judges, to clamp down on any violence, started investigating the victims for the slightest over-use of violence during self defence.

It caused such a storm here that over the last few years,both a clearer definition of what is legitimate defence and GREATER leeway to the British public under the rules of self defence has come about.

But self defence was never made ‘illegal’, as many Americans seem to think.


23 posted on 08/14/2007 3:20:05 AM PDT by the scotsman
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To: ought-six

‘Your nation is a poor shadow of its once-great self.’

I think ALL Western nations can say that mate....America is no different.


24 posted on 08/14/2007 3:20:59 AM PDT by the scotsman
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“It is a crime in England to protect oneself from assault.”

Having done a little law, I can say otherwise. If you are able, you are allowed to strike an attacker with ‘reasonbable’ force if you and they are unarmed. If they are armed, you are permitted to defend yourself with a defensive object of similar size, wieght etc. Say if you were at knifepoint, it would be perfectly within your rights to defend yourself with a stick or pole, or baseball bat.
The problem comes about that when the attacker is disarmed, and poses no obvious danger, the of course, if you strike them then you are probably guilty of assault.
Its complex, but requires all law-abiding people to exercise restraint and awareness when dealing with an potential attacker. Having been in a number of ‘scuffles’ for one thing or another, if this were a gun-weilding country I can say for certain that things would have been more bloody if a 9mm was involved.

“I am 100% American. Your nation is a poor shadow of its once-great self.”

You should be proud of your country man, its done wonders in very little time. The nation you talk of as a ‘shadow of its once-great self’ is the same nation that at its apogee (its great self) controlled up to a quarter of the worlds population, including, your nation. Why would you want to throw of its ‘great imperial yoke’???

I hope I have clarified the point of the legality of self-defence in the UK that you attested you. No doubt some of the blurb you count as fact and knowledge comes from too much crap news on Fox, CBS, CNN and all the other balls. Its fair enough, but now you know otherwise.


25 posted on 08/14/2007 8:04:07 AM PDT by Rikstir
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To: the scotsman

You are right, there, my friend.


26 posted on 08/14/2007 6:38:41 PM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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Uh, yeah, I’d want to throw off its imperial yoke, as did our forefathers. I have the greatest respect for Britain’s history (in fact, two of my most revered political leaders in history are British: Elizabeth I and Churchill). But I love and respect America more. I am proud of my English blood, as it comes from a woman (my mother) who went through the Blitz, and suffered great hardship, and never lost faith in her country. But, I’ll tell you this: She’s in her 80s now, and she corresponds regularly with her surviving siblings who are in England, and she, herself, says England is but a faded shadow of its once-great self.


27 posted on 08/14/2007 6:46:43 PM PDT by ought-six ("Give me liberty, or give me death!")
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well it feel ok to be living in a fading shadow of a country. cheers.


28 posted on 08/15/2007 5:58:52 AM PDT by Rikstir
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