Posted on 08/31/2007 10:39:06 AM PDT by bill1952
I’m not sure I agree with you on”Legal”immigation.We are way too crowded here as it is in this country and whether someone is legal or illegal matters little in the resources they consume and the amount of federal dollars that will have to be shelled out in benefits to them.
I would like to see a moratorium on ALL immigration into this country.
How is it racist? A ban on all immigration would include Europeans too.
The thing is, why reject people who are potentially productive members to society? A meritocracy would benefit us all.
Are you talking albout legal or illegal immigrants. We take in legal mmigrants from the rest of the world. In fact, we take in more legal immigrants than the rest of the world combined. The world's population will increase from 6 billion to nine billion before it starts leveling off. There will be no shortage of immigrants wishing to come to the US.
Right now, the birthrate of Mexico has dropped to between 2.1 and 2.3 children per family. So unless Mexico opens the door wide to immigrants from central and South America, everybody else will have to cross either the Atlantic or Pacific Oceans.
Mexico's total fertility rate is 2.39 children born/woman (2007 est.) compared to our 2.09. Mexico's population is growing at an annual rate of 1.153% (2007 est.) compared to our .89%. So there will be no shortage of Mexicans wishing to come to the US anytime soon. Illegals from El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala are transiting Mexico to come into the US and they have even higher fertility and national population growth rates.
top of that, though few people realize it, most of the people in the US are clustered around New York and Los Angeles. The secondary clusters are on the East and West coasts. But look at the rest of the US! There are about 13 ENTIRE STATES that dont have hardly any people at all!
That is irrelevant. The question is do we want to have a government policy that gives the US a population of 468 million by 2060? Shouldn't the people be at least given a say in this process? Most Americans have no idea what the Immigration and Naturalization of 1965 has meant in terms of population growth and demographics. The US has added 100 million people since 1970 and will add another 62 million by 2030--just 23 years from now. Is that what we want?
Few of you with everything that you have earned - many of them with nothing.
But they all will vote - hence:
Still don't think that it will happen?
That is because you do not know the diferrence between race and culture.
And that is how you were taught.
It would be considered racist by most people since we know that most immigrants who would be affected are non-Europeans.
Yes, lets bring in millions more people. This will solve our problems!
:o
The 3rd world supremacists love open borders
BS. We already have limits. The question is how many do we need and with what skills and talents. The Jordan Commission in the 90s [headed by Barbara Jordan, the first black Congresswoman from Texas] recommended reducing the numbers significantly from the current 1.2 million LEGAL IMMIGRANTS a year. Prior to 1965, we use to admit 178,000 a year. And that doesn't include the 500,000 to 1 million who enter illegally.
>Youre insane!!
No. You have been brainwashed into believing that.
A total stop on immigration would have great import to America. Think about the juxtaposition of those words.
Immigrants need to assimilate into our culture and speak English. Okay? I am simply rattled by these calls to completely shut all borders as if this is realistic. We all know that it isn’t
and the issue os not black and white..there are gray areas that have to be negotiated
and the issue is not black and white..there are gray areas that have to be negotiated
This kind of irrational, sentimental crap makes be wanna rip my hair out by the roots - it is so idiotic, its criminal.
Its not worthy of someone otherwise as intelligent as Dr Wattenberg. He sounds like an emotional pollyanna.
And I'd like to see a citation for this claim as well.
Yet, our legal immigration policies support such Balkanization thru entended chain migration and the sheer numbers that work against assimilation. We [the US] is accommodating ourselves to the immigrants [Hispanics] by making it easier for them to function in Spanish and not learn English, e.g. drivers tests, ballots, ESL courses, etc. We have never accommodated any other immigrant group to that extent.
America's current mass immigration mess is the result of a change in the laws in 1965. Prior to 1965, despite some changes in the 50's, America was a low-immigration country basically living under immigration laws written in 1924. Thanks to low immigration, the swamp of cheap labor was largely drained during this period, America became a fundamentally middle-class society, and our many European ethnic groups were brought together into a common national culture. In some ways, this achievement was so complete that we started to take for granted what we had achieved and forgot why it happened. So in a spasm of sentimentality on the Right and lies on the Left, we opened the borders.
....Further, the Communist Party USA supported higher immigration on the grounds that it destabilizes working Americans.
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