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'We need to give up deeply held desires'
Jerusalem Post ^ | Oct. 9, 2007 | Gil Hoffman

Posted on 10/09/2007 6:23:10 AM PDT by Alouette

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To: SJackson

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21 posted on 10/09/2007 7:01:18 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (We has met the enemy, and he is us........)
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To: bill1952
"We need to give up deeply held desires"

Why? Why must it be us who must give up such things in life?

Why is it not that they that must do so?

Well?

Exactly. Israel has been giving concession after concession for 6 decades. Let's see if the other side can - FOR ONCE - actually commit to something and follow through. I'm not holding my breath.

Besides, some things you NEVER, EVER, EVER give up - and for Jews and Israel, one of those things is Jerusalem, esp. the Old City and the Temple Mount. Period. End of Report. Not negotiable under ANY circumstances.

Olmert is scum, an appeaser of the worst sort who's doing this for his own benefit - to be able to say "I brought you peace, how can you toss me out of office." It would be bad enough if he was merely naive, but this is far, far beyond that point. He's corrupt, and will do ANYTHING to save his arse from being tossed out of office and into jail. I cannot believe that the Israeli public allows this would-be head of the Israeli Judenrat to have any authority

I don't often do this, but if he can't see the light - SOON - then I'm going to have to pray for an errant bolt of lightening, or a loose piece of fat in his bloodstream to end this problem. Olmert has NO right to give away Jerusalem - NONE!!!

“No Jew is at liberty to surrender the right of the Jewish Nation and the Land of Israel to exist. No Jewish body is sanctioned to do so. No Jew alive today has the authority to yield any piece of land whatsoever. This right is preserved by the Jewish people throughout the generations and cannot be forfeited under any circumstance. Even if at some given time there will be those who declare that they are relinquishing this right, they have neither the power nor the jurisdiction to negate it for future generations to come. The Jewish Nation is neither obligated by nor responsible for any waiver such as this. Our right to this land, in its entirety, is steadfast inalienable and eternal. And until the coming of the Great Redemption, we shall never yield this historic right.”

David Ben Gurion

22 posted on 10/09/2007 7:08:00 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Alouette
I sincerely wish different, but after reading this article the only words that came to mind are, "pipe dream."

5.56mm

23 posted on 10/09/2007 7:12:40 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: hoagy62

Ultimately, no. For the mean time, Zechariah prophesies that all of the world will have Jerusalem as their central focus. They will seek to divide the spoil amongst them. What is Israel’s spoil, if not her land? Things will get worse before they get better.


24 posted on 10/09/2007 7:15:16 AM PDT by Blogger (Propheteuon.com)
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To: hoagy62; Liberty Valance
“Why do I have a feeling that a “heavenly Zot” is in the works for Olmert?”

My guess is that he’ll get up one morning and go to his bathroom, only to discover that his foreskin has grown back.

25 posted on 10/09/2007 7:22:17 AM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: Alouette
‘We need to give up deeply held desires’

Like A deeply held desire for survival? Once Israel gives that up . . . .

Neville Chamberlain comes off sounding less naive than Olmert.

26 posted on 10/09/2007 7:23:52 AM PDT by Nevadan (nevadan)
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To: Ancesthntr

Amen and right on, Ancesthntr!!!!! Spot on!!!!


27 posted on 10/09/2007 7:44:33 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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To: Brucifer
"My guess is that he’ll get up one morning and go to his bathroom, only to discover that his foreskin has grown back."

ROFL!!! Excellent!
28 posted on 10/09/2007 7:45:27 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Hunter and Tancredo in '08! La Raza - the PLO of the Western Hemisphere)
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To: Alouette

Israel needs a revolution—within Halakhic bounds, of course!


29 posted on 10/09/2007 7:47:08 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vehaba'im zakhar uneqevah mikkol-basar ba'u ka'asher tzivvah 'Eloqim; vayisgor HaShem ba`ado.)
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To: Alouette
"Olmert also spoke of changes to the electoral system."

Hmmm. Is he planning changes that would prevent the Israeli voters and the opposition from kicking him out of office?

30 posted on 10/09/2007 7:52:08 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Brucifer
My guess is that he’ll get up one morning and go to his bathroom, only to discover that his foreskin has grown back.

How do you know it was ever removed in the first place?

31 posted on 10/09/2007 7:59:24 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Vehaba'im zakhar uneqevah mikkol-basar ba'u ka'asher tzivvah 'Eloqim; vayisgor HaShem ba`ado.)
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To: Alouette

Some people’s deeply held desires are different from other people’s.


32 posted on 10/09/2007 8:00:49 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Alouette
The only thing that Olmert seems to be concerned with is getting a nice, shiny peace award to place on his mantle and brag about to his friends. He seems perfectly at ease giving away the store and endangering the whole Israeli state to do so.

He is a dangerous lunatic who needs to be removed from power before it's too late.
33 posted on 10/09/2007 8:06:19 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Ron Paul put the cuckoo in my Cocoa Puffs)
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To: Alouette

This guy is nuts. They’d go for his family first.


34 posted on 10/09/2007 8:13:34 AM PDT by wastedyears (George Orwell was a clairvoyant.)
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To: woollyone

I agree that it has to be a spiritual blindness. That’s the only explanation I have for the liberals in this country and around the world, too.


35 posted on 10/09/2007 8:20:26 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: Alouette
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told the Knesset at the opening of its Winter Session on Monday that the current Palestinian leadership wants to move forward toward peace with Israel and that he would not use excuses to stall peace talks...

Arrogance and foolishness are a volatile mix.

36 posted on 10/09/2007 8:39:47 AM PDT by gogeo (Democrats want to support the troops by accusing them of war crimes.)
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To: Alouette

Why does this sound to me like a chapter out of Rudy’s playbook?

I can just see Rudy or his supporters saying:

We need to give up deeply held beliefs and vote for Rudy!


37 posted on 10/09/2007 9:57:55 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: hoagy62
Why do I have a feeling that a “heavenly Zot” is in the works for Olmert?

Anyone taking bets on what it’ll be?

Indictment for criminal fraud?

38 posted on 10/09/2007 10:26:58 AM PDT by Alouette (Vicious Babushka)
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To: Alouette

None dare call it treason. Where is the mob to drag this fiend from office and tar and feather him?


39 posted on 10/09/2007 10:29:10 AM PDT by montag813 (1)
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To: Alouette

Olmerde needs to resign or perhaps choose defenestration..


40 posted on 10/09/2007 12:31:13 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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