Posted on 10/11/2007 2:00:29 PM PDT by Spiff
That's not true at all. He's leading in several states and is now in a dead heat with Fred in the national polls.
Did you miss the latest national polling numbers?
Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking Poll 10/10
Giuliani 27% Thompson 17% Romney 16%
9/24/07
Thompson 27%
Romney 12%
10/10/07
Thompson 17%
Romney 16%
Romney is trending upward while the others are not.
Fred has gone on record stating that other than when attending church with "Mom" (when visitin' "Mom"), he doesn't attend anywhere else. So he is a self-professed inactive attender or member (I guess what LDS would call a "Jack restorationist," eh? :) )
The new Romney strategy ... this month anyway: “Poll your acquaintances in a year when Clinton is the alternative and get back to me.”
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How much are they paying you, Spiff?
>>>He’s another RINO, governed as such. <<<
We could have used a few more RINOs in the Senate, then. Romney backed the Federal Marriage Amendment and went to Washington to speak on its behalf. Our Republican Senate let us down. Romney filed lawsuits to atttempt to do the same in Mass, as well.
Cutting taxes? RINO. Vetoing pro-abortion legilsation? RINO. Banning public support of jihadists? RINO. Creating innovative programs to use the state to shut down illegals? RINO.
Claiming Romney isn’t a conservative is ridiculous. That the man changed his views from 1994 on abortion is a testament in his favor. He ran on a conservative platform in 94 and 02. He’s done so again in 2008.
Oh, good, Yes or No time.
~”Romney believes the Garden of Eden was in Missouri?”~
That is an LDS doctrine. Yes.
~”Romney believes that we can become gods?”~
That is an LDS doctrine. Yes.
~”Romney believes that Jesus and Satan are brothers?”~
In the sense you probably mean, no. In the sense that we are all - including Lucifer - spiritual children of God, and therefore siblings, yes. Lucifer and Jesus are brothers in the same way you and Jesus are brothers.
~”Romney believes that God is a created being?”~
LDS doctrine is that, as we have the opportunity to grow to become as God is, it follows that God was once like us. In this sense, yes, for it then follows that God must have been Himself spiritually begotten.
~”Joseph Smith said, “I will become the American Mohammed”?”~
No. At least, after some searching, I cannot find that quote on the Internet. I will happily accept sourced correction if it is forthcoming.
Thank you for your questions. We Mormons are always on hand to answer them, should you feel the desire to ask any more.
~”I don’t know if you’re unintentionally ignorant about the actual beliefs of Mormons, or if you’ve been terribly mislead, or if you’re just telling a pack of lies.”~
As you know from past conversations, FastCoyote has been corrected on these point on many occasions. He knows what he said is not true. At this juncture, it’s a 9th commandment issue.
~”Not quite. Zero military service.”~
What’s military service got to do with family values? There’s a particularly deep shade of red in that herring.
try googling these words: Joseph Smith Mahomet
You will find the information you are looking for. You see in Joseph Smith’s day the prophet of Islam was spelled ‘Mahomet’ not like we spell it now, ‘Mohammed.’
Here is a recollection from one of the followers of Joseph Smith:
” have heard the Prophet say that he should yet tread down his enemies, and walk over their dead bodies; that if he was not let alone, hew ould be a second Mahomet to this generation, and that he would make it one gore of blood from the Rocky Mountains to the Atlantic Ocean; that like Mahomet, whose motto, is treating for peace, was ‘Alcoran or the Sword,’ so should it be eventually with us, ‘Joseph Smith or the Sword.’ These last statments were made during the last summer. The number of armed men at Adam-on-diahmon was between three and four hundred. Thomas B. March.
Sworn to and subscribed before me, the day hering written.
Henry Jacobs, J. P., Ray County, Missouri
Richmond, Missouri, October 24, 1838”
And this attatched affidavit swearing to the truthfulness of Thomas Marsh’s Testimony:
Affidavit of Orson Hyde
The most of the statements in the foregoing disclosure of the Thomas B. March I know to be true; the remainder I beleive to be true. Orson Hyde.
Richmond, October 24, 1838.
Sworn to and subscribed before me, on the day above written.
Henry Jacobs, J.P.
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Very on point. I’d suggest just reading the letter in the original post and skipping the comments, as I usually do. It’s pretty nasty out there.
~”Fred has gone on record stating that other than when attending church with “Mom” (when visitin’ “Mom”), he doesn’t attend anywhere else.”~
So you’re willing to rationalize Thompson’s restorationism on the basis that he’s not even good at it, yet Romney’s faith makes him worthy of utter condemnation? A bit of a double standard here.
Wouldn’t you rather expect Thompson to join a mainstream Christian church and be a faithful attendant thereof? That would, at least, make your stance consistent - AND it would make Thompson a much better representative of Evangelical voters... wouldn’t it? Yet Thompson gets a pass.
~”The new Romney strategy ... this month anyway: “Poll your acquaintances in a year when Clinton is the alternative and get back to me.””~
Romney strategy? I must really have you fooled.
I am about a week away from becoming a full-fledged Romney supporter. I was waiting to see what Thompson brought to the table, and it’s disappointing. But you speak as if I’m in Romney’s inner circle. While flattering, it’s also laughable.
I think this is the tenth or twelfth time you’ve quoted me without pinging me. What strikes me as particularly puerile is the fact that you keep doing so thinking you can get away with it without me calling you on it.
Thank you, Colorcountry. I will look into it more.
You said impeccable. He, his sons, could of served. That would be better. He, they didn’t. That is less so. Certainly not ‘impeccable’.
adj. Having no flaws; perfect.
Incapable of sin or wrongdoing.
Kind of creepy, really, using the word, impeccable, that you did.
What people do not seem to understand is that once a man is elected President, he has to serve all of the people and must compromise sometimes. Ronald Reagan did also. People just forget that.
I have said this before, but I have read Mormon books from their own bookstore to find out what they really believe. I cannot understand why they deny it here and elsewhere. Having said that, I will vote for whomever the party nominates because they have to be better than Hillary!
Lots of points in the text about his “unequivocal opposition” to gay marriage, yet he was the sitting Governor in the only state that allows it. His complete lack of backbone in that fight is why he will never get my vote, in any primary or general election.
~”You said impeccable. He, his sons, could of served. That would be better. He, they didn’t. That is less so. Certainly not ‘impeccable’.”~
Once again, what does that have to do with family values? Are veterans or parents of soldiers the only ones who can claim to have good family values?
You’re prevaricating. Either defend the non sequitur or abandon it.
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