Posted on 12/05/2007 3:25:21 PM PST by RonDog
“Hoover saw McCarthy as hurting the ani-communist cause...”
““”According to the Communist leaders, McCarthy has helped them a great deal,” Herbert Philbrick, who spied on communists for the FBI for almost a decade, said in 1952.”
Secretagent, I hope you don’t mind if I view with scepticism these quotes as I consider their source, SFGate, unreliable. In fact these comments look suspiciously like disinformation, and I will not accept either one without independent verification.
The comments from Hoover, for example, are not doumented in any way. They are just the writer’s opinion. He quotes DeLoach, of course, but only to say Hoover did not like McCarthy. And so? Proves what?
I would like to see where Philbrick said what is quoted, as other sources I have read talked about how the CPUSA devoted huge amounts of energy, time, and personnel into maligning the Senator. Something doesn’t jibe.
And just look at who the article’s third “expert” on McCarthy is. None other than Ronald Radosh, the very “authority” Ann Coulter excoriated as a know-nothing at the beginning of this thread.
Color me unconvinced.
Excerpt transcript of newspaper page from the Appleton Post-Crescent, September 8, 1952 (friends for re-election)
“Some of our friends say they are not dupes, and quote Mr. Herbert Philbrick, FBI Counter-Spy as saying that Senator McCarthy’s efforts have aided Communism. We have checked Mr. Philbrick’s book and find that he doesn’t even mention McCarthy.
But here is a Photostat of what Mr. Philbrick actually wrote on the Fly Leaf of his book as he presented it to Senator McCarthy: It reads as follows: “With many thanks to Joe McCarthy, who despite an attack by the enemies of our country unprecedented in history, has refused to yield to the forces of evil and who in fact has redoubled his determination to keep on fighting – and to win. (signed) Herbert A. Philbrick.”
Should we believe what the “Confusionists” say Philbrick thinks?
Or should we believe what Philbrick tells us Philbrick thinks?”
http://www.foxvalleyhistory.org/turningpoints/mccarthy/mccarthy-dearjoetransc.html
It’s behind a subscriber wall on NROnline.
Wa it the National Review that posted his review? I think she’s wrong is she not?
Okay, I see that she is right the review was in the National Review. BUT can someone explain to me why Ann is upset with the National Review? That’s Buckley magazine, right? Their writers are usually right on the money about things. Perhaps NO ONE at NR reviewed the Radosh review.
This came off as a DOUBLE scold - not only Ron Radosh, but National Review as well.
Fitting.
Especially for the way Ann was scourged for her statement, “We should invade their countries, kill their leaders, and convert them to Christianity.”
Now more than ever.
“.... the increasingly irrelevant National Review.... “
BINGO. I let my subscription go when it became so obvious that buckley had become goldwater.
Ann is talking about this And now for some shoddy reporting from an NRO millblogger
I just finished reading “Blacklisted.
It was a very good read backed by a ton of research. A real eye opener.
Wes Pruden has an ongoing series (part 8 is the latest installment linked below) on the Evans book at the RenewAmerica website.
They fired her 6 years ago. See the link on post 29.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Winner Here!
That is true but there is MUCH more to it than that. The United States Department of State is, to this day, still riddled with the hirelings and minions of the very people McCarty was seeking to expose.
I did not realize that Ann had been in the military.
As M. Stanton Evans irrefutably demonstrates, McCarthy “didn’t make a practice of frivolous accusations about communism” either.
Meroney’s claims to the contrary notwithstanding, J. Edgar Hoover strongly supported McCarthy. As the FBI director put it in 1953:
“McCarthy is a former Marine. He was an amateur boxer. He’s Irish. Combine those and you’re going to have a vigorous individual, who won’t be pushed around ... Certainly, he is a controversial man. He is earnest and he is honest. He has enemies. Whenever you attack subversives of any kind,... you are going to be the victim of the most extremely vicious criticism that can be made.”
-Blacklisted by History, p. 36
After calling the Deputy Secretary of State for Security whom he had met with over a year earlier to get permission to relate his same account, Chambers outlined the Soviet Military Intelligence network in which he was an important nexus for high ranking Washington, DC spies supplying information and documents to the Soviets.
After the interview, he never saw those two agents again.
After the interview, he was never contacted by the FBI again during the War or thereafter.
When the Hiss case began, he went throught other government agencies and did have some secondary contact with the FBI but seems to have considered them compromised, either by political ambition, or manipulation.
Witness is riveting.
NR online fired Ann after she made her ..invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity...post 9/11 column.
Ann retorted that Jonah Goldberg and Richard Lowry were girlie men. =) So there’s no love lost between NR and Ann.
I’ve subscribed to NR for over 25 years. I’ll continue to subscribe as it is the Vatican of conservative journals and must endure. However, I think Jonah gets too much ink, there’s too great a Brit representation and well, lately, the features have been dull.
NR was at its best when it was the anti communist bastion. It needs a new crusade.
From David Horowitz, an admirer of Coulter and a publisher of her work:
“It is a shame that Coulter mars her case with claims that cannot be sustained. In making McCarthy the center of her history, ironically, she has fallen into the very liberal trap she warns about. It is the Left that wants McCarthy to be the center of (and in effect to define) the postwar era so that it can use his recklessness to discredit the anti-Communist cause. In fact, as Coulter herself points out, McCarthy began his anti-Communist crusade after the decisive battles of 1947 and 1948, surfacing only in 1950, after the onset of the Korean War. By then, even Henry Wallace, the Progressive Party’s presidential candidate, knew he had been duped. This is why McCarthy did not unearth any Communists in government or out (all they had all been previously identified by the FBI), and why FBI officials engaged in counter-intelligence work despised McCarthy for damaging their efforts. Hopefully, ‘Treason’ will not have a similar effect.”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={85013A39-1679-49EF-9799-DE762C337F95}
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