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Bush Snubs Netanyahu on Israel Visit
Arutz Sheva ^ | 1/7/08 | Hana Levi Julian

Posted on 01/07/2008 11:11:37 AM PST by bruinbirdman

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To: SJackson; joebuck

And what is the official Israeli policy with regard to the Arabs living in Jerusalem? Please explain the official Israeli policy on what is to be done with the Arabs in Jerusalem once Jerusalem becomes the “complete and united” capital of Israel?

Again, what is Isreal going to do with the Arabs therein? What is THEIR stated policy as to what should be done to ensure that Jerusalem is the complete and united capital of Isreal? Please state their policy? Israel is living in a fantasy dreamworld of contradictions and you know it.

As to the notion that America is bullying Israel. If this is true, why the heck does Israel ask the U.S. to facitlite EVERY negotiation it ever has had with the palestinians? Can’t they do this themselves?

If Isreal doen’t want America’s input in their negotiations/foreign policy disputes, how about the STOP ASKING FOR IT in the first place.


61 posted on 01/07/2008 1:45:19 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: Always Right

That’s why we need Giuliani.


62 posted on 01/07/2008 1:47:04 PM PST by barryg
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To: SevenofNine
It seems that the phantasmagorical lure of "MidEast Peace" causes otherwise capable people to turn into dizzy wombats. GWBush, meet Bill Clinton, Jimmuh Cahtuh, yer old man, Henry Kissinger...
63 posted on 01/07/2008 1:53:06 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Lions Gate
So because Benjamin Netanyahu believes the land of Israel is not for sale (or to be given to terrorists) President Bush refused to meet with him. Very, very disappointing.

So help us all understand something. When Netanyahu was PM, he turned Hebron over to the palastinian authority. Aparently, when Netanyahu was in power, he was more than willing to trade land for nothing, HE ACTUALLY DID IT. Got Bush?

In otherwords, he BETRAYED Israel and cost himself the PM job in the process. So now we are to believe this man will be all hawk if he is elected as the next PM? I seriously doubt it.

So who has been the bigger disappointment to Israel Bush or Netanyahu?

64 posted on 01/07/2008 1:55:33 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: hinckley buzzard

Bill Clinton and Jimmuh Cahtuh weren’t capable people in the first place anyway.


65 posted on 01/07/2008 2:27:31 PM PST by SolidWood (Al Gore: "I have never heard of this, but I think it is a very good idea,")
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To: Diplomat

“So help us all understand something. When Netanyahu was PM, he turned Hebron over to the palastinian authority. Aparently, when Netanyahu was in power, he was more than willing to trade land for nothing, HE ACTUALLY DID IT. Got Bush?

In otherwords, he BETRAYED Israel and cost himself the PM job in the process. So now we are to believe this man will be all hawk if he is elected as the next PM? I seriously doubt it.

So who has been the bigger disappointment to Israel Bush or Netanyahu?”

You certainly have a point. I was unaware Mr. Netanyahu turned over Hebron to the Palestinians when he was Israel’s Prime Minister. From his tough talk about Israel’s sovereignty, it doesn’t sound as though he would repeat the same mistake, but who knows?


66 posted on 01/07/2008 2:43:27 PM PST by Lions Gate
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To: Madame Dufarge

Been 6 plus years since 9-11. People have forgotten naked aggression against the USA


67 posted on 01/07/2008 3:57:15 PM PST by dennisw (Like that HuckaMoron has a clue)
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To: Diplomat

You have a big mouth when it comes to Israel. Let’s assume you are a diplomat or an ex diplomat. You wouldn’t do one tenth as good as Netanyahu and probably worse than Olmert. Israel don’t have so much latitude being that it’s a nation of six million surrounded by two hundred million Muslims. You are arrogant blustery and stupid even though I know you are not stupid. So don’t act stupid.


68 posted on 01/07/2008 4:05:37 PM PST by dennisw (Like that HuckaMoron has a clue)
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To: Diplomat

OK Diplomat. What would you do if in charge of Israel?


69 posted on 01/07/2008 4:09:56 PM PST by dennisw (Like that HuckaMoron has a clue)
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To: dennisw
Everything I have stated is the truth. If you don't want to hear the truth, then stick your head back into the sand and go away.

You wouldn’t do one tenth as good as Netanyahu and probably worse than Olmert.

I know one thing for certain, if I was Isreali PM, I'd NEVER trade land to the pali's for a worthless piece of paper (Netanyahu). Nor would I ever allow Isreal to be defeated militarily by Lebanon (Olmert). If this makes me arrogant and stupid, so be it.

The BDS over Isreal on this board is a gigantic lie. I'm sick of this delusion. So yea, I've been confronting posters on this issue and they have all run away with their tail betweeen their legs. Why, because facts confuse people with BDS.

Almost to a person they think Netanyahu will be a conservative savior to Israel. Yet, only a tiny percentage are aware of Bibi's Hebron blunder.

70 posted on 01/07/2008 4:36:17 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: Diplomat

I don’t even think much about Benjamin Netanyau. All I know is you talk big but would flame out if dealt the same cards Israel has. You have no understanding of a nation surrounded by millions and millions of hostile Muslims. You play a game of pretend where Israel has 100 million Jews on the defensive instead of 5 million

How about that $95 Muslim oil? You think that might lead to even greater Muslim arrogance and sway over George Bush. And what kinds of negotiations he demands Israel to engage in


71 posted on 01/07/2008 4:43:39 PM PST by dennisw (Like that HuckaMoron has a clue)
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To: dennisw
And what kinds of negotiations he demands Israel to engage in.

Israel keeps asking US to facilitate their negotiations. If they don't want our input, how about they find some other country to act as mediator for them? I fail to see why Bush is blamed for attempting to assist the negotiations when we are doing so on Israel's request.

Olmert aside, you truly cannot believe that Israel is going to agree to any condition that they do not want to commit to. Therefore, whatever it is you believe the U.S. is currently asking of Israel, if it is a condition that Israel would never agree to, it's irrelevant. I.e. giving west Jerusalem to the palis.

72 posted on 01/07/2008 4:55:35 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: Zman

Saw him at CPAC in 2000. Great speaker.


73 posted on 01/07/2008 4:58:53 PM PST by ItisaReligionofPeace
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To: bruinbirdman
What a STUPID thing for Bush to do!

Between this, and Condi constantly threatening the Israelis to "give more" to the Palis - I am amazed God doesn't strike our Nation down with the plague.

74 posted on 01/07/2008 5:03:16 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Diplomat
Olmert aside, you truly cannot believe that Israel is going to agree to any condition that they do not want to commit to. Therefore, whatever it is you believe the U.S. is currently asking of Israel, if it is a condition that Israel would never agree to, it's irrelevant. I.e. giving west Jerusalem to the palis.

There is always US pressure on Israel. We give them foreign aid and they have to listen to us. Not totally but a lot
It's a tough world and Islam is flexing its muscles and even has some end times scenarios with Islamic nuclear weapons 
So complain about Israel but it's just another front for the worldwide Jihad. Where it seems they have a UK blogger up for hate crime charges
75 posted on 01/07/2008 5:04:28 PM PST by dennisw (Like that HuckaMoron has a clue)
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To: dennisw
Right down the memory hole.

Shameful.

76 posted on 01/07/2008 5:29:31 PM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: dennisw; Diplomat

I may be mistaken but I think Diplomat may be complaining that to some extent leftist Israelis and weak Israeli politicians are the cause of the problem. Not US pressure.

Read this and cry:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1949469/posts

The author’s main complaint is that pres Bush did not dictate to Israel and respected Israeli sovereignty.


77 posted on 01/07/2008 6:29:37 PM PST by dervish (Pray for the peace of an UNDIVIDED JEWISH Jerusalem)
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To: dervish; dennisw

My beef has little to do with Israel’s government. Neither Olmert nor Netanyahu directly complained about the Bush incident. Israel always acts more diplomatically than I do. It’s the same old journalistic un-named sources within the admnistration/party that said “...”. I got that from the outset.

My annoyance was with those who think Bush is somehow at fault here and blame him and/or Rice. It has no relation to reality. This administration sure didn’t invent appeasement when it comes to this problem. Olmert shouldn’t have surrendered in Lebanon. Actions have consequences.


78 posted on 01/07/2008 7:48:24 PM PST by Diplomat
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To: ought-six
I soooooo wish Duncan Hunter were president.

I caught him briefly on Scarbrough the other day. Duncan Hunter manages to be more pertinent in two minutes than any other guy is in 10 years.

79 posted on 01/07/2008 8:11:21 PM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: Diplomat
"Israel keeps asking US to facilitate their negotiations. If they don't want our input, how about they find some other country "

Big D: IIRC GW started his first administration by telling Israel to do just that. He had a hands off policy for, how long? 18 months?

Or did he just do that in order to formulate a policy?

yitbos

80 posted on 01/07/2008 8:38:46 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. - Ayn Rand")
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