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Rasmussen: South Carolina Shifts In Both Primaries
Captain's Quarters ^ | Jan. 14, 2008 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 01/14/2008 4:51:26 PM PST by jdm

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To: the808bass

Have you noticed? Its nothing but talking about the process or guilt by association with the Huck boys. I’ve been trying to get them to adress issues for about 7 days straight now without success. Scan all these threads and you don’t find them talking about issues at all. Ever.


41 posted on 01/14/2008 6:20:14 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: the808bass

Huck only attacks those who attack him. He’s a class act from start to finish.


42 posted on 01/14/2008 6:20:35 PM PST by barryg
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To: Huck

I think Fred is angling for a place as McCain’s V.P.

Mark my words.


43 posted on 01/14/2008 6:21:49 PM PST by barryg
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To: the808bass

“So, is Huck hedging his bets with McLame too? Or did I miss Huck’s massive pounding of McCain’s record? Or is there a difference between the two? Why is FDT attacking the #2 guy hedging his bets, but Huck attacking the #4 is not? “

Thank you, it was so obvious that I missed that. I’ve noticed every time someone is talking about Fred secretly supporting McClame, it’s a huckster....


44 posted on 01/14/2008 6:22:25 PM PST by Robbin
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To: barryg

Yea, we were chatting up that topic. Most people seemed to think, not without reason, that that would be too geriatric of a ticket. McCain will need someone younger. They say watch out for McCain/Huckabee. I can see the logic in it.


45 posted on 01/14/2008 6:25:35 PM PST by Huck (Ok, I'll sneak in a few posts here and there and try to stay out of trouble.)
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To: barryg
Huck only attacks those who attack him. He’s a class act from start to finish.

I think that was in the Sermon on the Mount, wasn't it? Attack those that attack you. Yes?

He's a carefully crafted image courtesy of Ed Rollins. And it's not an "attack" to point out someone's legislative and policy history, despite what the MSM wants us to believe.

The real reason Huck cannot attack McCain is twofold. 1) He is angling for the Veep slot, having neither the organizational or the monetary support to survive Super Tuesday. 2) His record is the same as McCain's. Is he going to attack him on immigration? Ha. Tax cuts? Ha. He's painted into his own corner.

Before you laugh at the Veep comment, think of what McCain or Giuliani would be looking for in a Veep. Someone from the South with evangelical support... Sound familiar?

46 posted on 01/14/2008 6:26:35 PM PST by the808bass
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To: the808bass
Now explain when #2 Huckabee's going after #1 McCain (instead of #4 Thompson). I shall patiently await.

I don't think Huckabee is going after Thompson. THompson brought the battle to him as McCain's proxy. When Huckabee and McCain are all who are left, then they will battle it out. In the meantime, Thompson's whole campaign will have amounted to playing the role of McCain's bad cop.

47 posted on 01/14/2008 6:26:41 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: LordBridey
I don't think Huckabee is going after Thompson. THompson brought the battle to him as McCain's proxy. When Huckabee and McCain are all who are left, then they will battle it out. In the meantime, Thompson's whole campaign will have amounted to playing the role of McCain's bad cop.

What battle did Thompson bring to Huck? Pointing out his record. Its been almost a week now, when will Huck respond to the issues?

48 posted on 01/14/2008 6:30:07 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Its nothing but talking about the process or guilt by association with the Huck boys. I’ve been trying to get them to adress issues for about 7 days straight now without success. Scan all these threads and you don’t find them talking about issues at all. Ever.

Very astute as always, Iggy. "If this happens, then that..." I had one fair soul tell me to point out the part of Huckabee's platform that was not conservative. When faced with Huckabee's actual record, he said (with a straight face, I presume), "Where is that in his platform?"

To which I responded, "Tell me what parts of Romney's platform are not conservative?" Crickets.

We're trotted out Thompson's support of Howard Baker in a Presidential Primary in 1976 as evidence of his lack of a conservative record. But pointing out Huck raising taxes this !!decade!!, that's attack politics. Good gawd.

49 posted on 01/14/2008 6:30:46 PM PST by the808bass
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To: jdm
Thompson saved almost all of his ammunition for Mike Huckabee in that debate, but avoided criticizing his friend and mentor, McCain. That strategy may haunt him if he cannot gain more traction against McCain in South Carolina. He needs a strong finish in this state in order to gain credibility for his Super Tuesday run, especially since he's falling off the pace in Florida.

Which all of us naysayers pointed out after the debate. Fred has to WIN SC to have even a hint of credibility. You can't base your campaign on your stregth in the south, and then lose South Carolina to John friggin McCain. And then lose FLA?? Just exactly when is Fred expected to win anything??

50 posted on 01/14/2008 6:31:58 PM PST by Huck (Ok, I'll sneak in a few posts here and there and try to stay out of trouble.)
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To: the808bass
He's a carefully crafted image courtesy of Ed Rollins.

Rollins came quite late to the campaign. He was impressed by Huckabee and his small coampaign staff. He recognized someone who could win. The image preceded Rollins.

51 posted on 01/14/2008 6:32:13 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
Its been almost a week now, when will Huck respond to the issues?

But he did respond to the issue. Fred needs metamucil. What more do you need to know? God, Stephen, do I have to hold your hand?

52 posted on 01/14/2008 6:32:15 PM PST by the808bass (/sarcasm, obviously)
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To: the808bass
But he did respond to the issue. Fred needs metamucil. What more do you need to know? God, Stephen, do I have to hold your hand?

Lol. Hey Fred was asking for 540,000 to run his spots this week. He just went over a million in donations on his website. He's already gained about 7 points and with 5 days left the surge is not over.

53 posted on 01/14/2008 6:34:21 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
What battle did Thompson bring to Huck? Pointing out his record. Its been almost a week now, when will Huck respond to the issues?

Calling your republican opponent a democrat is probably as offensive as you could get. He had a list of items that he read and not enough time allowed to respond to them, although he did a very good job with what he had.

54 posted on 01/14/2008 6:35:29 PM PST by LordBridey
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To: LordBridey
THompson brought the battle to him as McCain's proxy.

Or perhaps, as a conservative, he pointed out that Huckabee's record is not conservative. I'm not sure how that's bad (unless you're a Huckabee supporter). Truth wins in the end. Odd that the self-proclaimed evangelicals have avoided that fact.

To take votes from McCain does Thompson no good if those votes do not come to him. I think Fred will stay in the race even if he comes in second in South Carolina. He had to get by the faux-conservative Huckabee first. Then, the easy task of pointing out McCain's flaws. At least, that's what we'll hope.

55 posted on 01/14/2008 6:36:18 PM PST by the808bass
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To: the808bass
Before you laugh at the Veep comment, think of what McCain or Giuliani would be looking for in a Veep. Someone from the South with evangelical support... Sound familiar?

I agree. I think McCain/Huckabee makes a lot of sense on paper. McCain is poison to a lot of conservatives, so they truly have to compete for the middle to beat the DEMs. Huck does well with the moderates while peeling off gullible Christians. I think a ticket like that might actually have a chance against Obama or Clinton. I'm not endorsing it, I'm just sayin'.

Meanwhile, I don't even know who to vote for on Super Tuesday. If Fred doesn't win SC, I don't think I should waste my vote on him. I think I should pick from the actual contenders. If he wins SC, even if he totally fails in FLA, which looks to be the case, there would be SOME small justification for voting for him. Unless it's just a protest vote. But I just don't get when he's supposed to actually win anything. I guess Romney is the second choice, but that's pretty sad.

56 posted on 01/14/2008 6:36:30 PM PST by Huck (Ok, I'll sneak in a few posts here and there and try to stay out of trouble.)
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To: LordBridey
The image preceded Rollins.

When did Huck get his bump in the polls?

57 posted on 01/14/2008 6:37:06 PM PST by the808bass
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To: rintense

“Thompson saved almost all of his ammunition for Mike Huckabee in that debate, but avoided criticizing his friend and mentor, McCain”

That pretty much says it all. When Fred drops out he is going to throw his support to his “friend and mentor”. I am looking forward to seeing how the Fredheads handles this. Will Fred no longer be a true conservative or will McCain become the biggest Reagan conservative ever. Film at 11.


58 posted on 01/14/2008 6:39:02 PM PST by redangus
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To: LordBridey
Calling your republican opponent a democrat is probably as offensive as you could get. He had a list of items that he read and not enough time allowed to respond to them, although he did a very good job with what he had.

Well he's democrat on all the issues Thompson listed. If the shoe fits. He's had all week to respond. All he's come back with so far is "guilt by association" and insults. I'd like to hear him adress the issues. But you and I both know he can't. I guess repeating "I am a Christian" often enough is good enough for some.

59 posted on 01/14/2008 6:39:39 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: LordBridey
Calling your republican opponent a democrat is probably as offensive as you could get. He had a list of items that he read and not enough time allowed to respond to them, although he did a very good job with what he had.

1) If there wasn't truth to what Thompson said, the charge would not have stuck. IOW, if it was a total fabrication, Fred's campaign would have spiraled downwards and Huck probably would've gotten a bounce. Something about truthiness.

2) Huck has had plenty of time and air in the past days to refute any of the charges Fred made. I haven't heard it. Just sophomoric humor. Maybe he can get Simon Cowell to write his next critiques of Fred.

60 posted on 01/14/2008 6:40:15 PM PST by the808bass
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