Democrats set for trench warfare

Financial Times ^ | Jan. 27, 2008 | By Edward Luce

[Enterprise]

Maybe they’ll all get trench foot.

[acapesket]

If wishes were horses.. beggars would ride.

[Jeff Chandler]

Come the election, all the blacks who now hate Hillary and love Ubama will vote Hillary.

You can bank on it.

[Jeff Chandler]

>>If wishes were horses.. beggars would ride.<<

Or they would eat horse meat.

[doc1019]

Most have trench mouth already. ;-)

[DGHoodini]

Living by their “morals” already has them rotting. >Bo)

[Parley Baer]

Hillary only in passing acknowledged Obama’s victory in SC. That will not endear her to the Black voters. Just shows what a witch she is.

[Reaganesque]

We may be witnessing the death of the myth that says Democrats can't be racists. Many black leaders are already publicly asking if they haven't been "played" by the Democrats. The fact that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton are trying to label Obama as the "black" candidate in an effort to appeal to white Liberals while denying they're doing so, is not going unnoticed by black Liberals.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out but, I still think Hillary will be the nominee, as the Clintons own the DNC but, her victory over Obama may so damage the Democrats that they can't win in November. It is hard to see how the black vote, the Democrat's most reliable constituency, would turn out for her after what Mrs. Clinton, her husband and their surrogates will do to Obama over the next several weeks. Get the popcorn out kids, its going to be interesting!

[Joshua]

I think after what they have seen a large number will sit it out

[Rome2000]

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Candidate	Delegates (CNN)	Super delegates	Total
Clinton	48	182	230
Obama	63	86	149
Edwards	26	28	54
Uncommitted	0	424	424
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Clinton	182	182	207	201
Obama	86	89	112	102
Edwards	28	35	38	34
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Candidate	Delegates (CNN)	Super delegates	Total
Clinton	121	192	313
Obama	63	89	152
Edwards	26	29	55
Uncommitted	55	459	514
Updated 1/26/2008	Delegates Needed: 2208

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[jdm]

Come the election, all the blacks who now hate Hillary and love Ubama will vote Hillary.

Hillary has to win the nomination first. She and Obama can't both be the Democrat choice (and I don't think either would want the other for their VP).

[smoothsailing]

Obama better call his momma..

[kempo]

She will get their vote in the end.

[DLfromthedesert]

That’s why the Republican nominee needs to pick Michael Steele as his running mate.

[Rudder]

Obama’s stunning win is also likely to polarise further an already bitterly divided Democratic Party...

It's divided, alright---about 67% in Obama's favor. It'll be hard this coming Monday to find a single democrat publically singing Hillary's praises.

[Rome2000]

Its not too hard to see that Obama will be the VP or the backlash will be catastrophic.

That, coupled with a the prospect of a liberal running for the GOP like MYTH WILLARD is pretty ominous

[Ronin]

I am making no bones about my desire for an Obama win for the DemonCrap nomination — but despite this win in South Carolina, I don’t think it is likely.

The Clintons are never more dangerous than they are in this condition, and if Obama thinks they have been fighting dirty before he is about to find out what the word really means.

And yes, once crowned, the blacks who now hate her gut will pull the lever for her in November, or at best, stay home. They won’t vote Republican in any numbers to be significant.

[psjones]

That’s probably what the clintons are banking on. They’re arrogant enough to assume they’ll get back the black vote. Grab the popcorn, this is getting verrrrrrrrrrry interesting.

[SamAdams76]

Come the election, all the blacks who now hate Hillary and love Ubama will vote Hillary.

I'm not so sure about that. Obama is not like the Jesse Jackson type candidates of yesteryear. Obama is a bona-fide candidate who has already been elected to high office. Nobody ever took Jesse Jackson's presidential runs seriously and even Jesse himself would show up at the convention to endorse the nominee.

If the Clintons end up stealing the nomination through parlor tricks (i.e. having Michigan and Florida delegates count after all and sewing up the super-delegates), I just don't see Obama toadying up to them and accepting a VP slot or otherwise endorsing them in any way. And I would expect a lot of Obama supporters to sit the election out. I don't see many of them voting Republican but I do see them sitting out in large numbers.