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What were Clintons thinking? (GREELEY ALERT)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | January 30, 2008 | ANDREW GREELEY

Posted on 01/30/2008 5:45:33 PM PST by Chi-townChief

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To: Jimmy Valentine
Why are so many people just shocked that the Clintons are every bit as tawdry, cheap jack dishonest hucksters with absolutely no ethical or moral foundation, just like we have been screaming at them for so many years?

It's pretty damn funny, actually, if it weren't that the public seems to be already set up for a Barak vs. McCain election next November.

21 posted on 01/30/2008 6:17:44 PM PST by xJones
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To: cajungirl

By November, it’ll be obvious that the fracture between democrats is greater than that between republicans. Their SC fiasco left more than a bruise.
Republicans of all stripes (including white women, her strongest demographic, but especially, white men),many independents and some democrats are simply more determined to keep Mrs. Clinton out of the White House than a bitterly split democratic party is capable or even driven to keep a republican out. Republicans will grudgingly reconcile; Democrats are eating themselves.


22 posted on 01/30/2008 6:19:20 PM PST by BIV
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To: Zebra

“If anyone can get a disappointed true conservative off the couch to vote for a RINO like John McCain, it is Hillary Clinton.”

Which is precisely our best hope. I think we’d have more trouble with Obama than Hillary. She is absolutely toxic.


23 posted on 01/30/2008 6:20:45 PM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: mware
One thing I have noted over 80 years of watching Political Antics, no matter who the Dems select as a standard bearer, they will all rally around that person. Not the Pubbies if they don’t get their person they want to take their ball and go home.
24 posted on 01/30/2008 6:21:39 PM PST by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy, other times I let her sleep/)
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To: Chi-townChief
They and their colleagues set out to destroy him by innuendo, distortion and smear.

Funny how all these lefties have gotten religion this year.

Where were they when the Clintons did the same thing to the Bush family, all of his female accusers and their Republican enemies in Congress?

25 posted on 01/30/2008 6:26:25 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: BIV

I hope you are right.


26 posted on 01/30/2008 6:35:09 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: BIV

I hope you are right.


27 posted on 01/30/2008 6:35:16 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: BooBoo1000
At the rate things are going, it could be a bit like 1860. Maybe the race will end in a photo-finish: 25% McCain, 25% Hillary, 20% Romney, 20% Obama, 5% Paul, 2% Kucinich, 2% Buchanan, and 1% Steven Colbert.

But I think it's more likely Hillary will manage to crush Obama, a lot of Democrats will be mad for a few weeks, and then they'll all come back to support her out of hatred for the Republican Party.

28 posted on 01/30/2008 6:42:14 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Zebra

Perhaps, but let’s not forget that the Clintons, as despicable as they are, have an uncanny knack at winning elections. By hook or crook, they haven’t lost one since 1980. They just might figure out a way to win this one, and McCain is probably their weakest possible adversary.


29 posted on 01/30/2008 6:43:12 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Chi-townChief
They are Grifters. It’s all they know.
30 posted on 01/30/2008 7:03:47 PM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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To: vox_freedom

“They and their colleagues set out to destroy him by innuendo, distortion and smear.”
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Typical Clinton operating procedure....would be nice to see it backfired.


31 posted on 01/30/2008 7:05:07 PM PST by cowdog77 (Circle the Wagons)
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To: irishjuggler

Yes, but all the people that Bill has campaigned for since they left the White House have lost.
I think McCain will win in a landslide.


32 posted on 01/30/2008 7:19:01 PM PST by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: Chi-townChief
Why, in an election in which the public has made clear that they are fed up with partisan negativity, did they strive to wipe out Obama at the very beginning by treating him like they were Republicans?

Interesting sentence structure here. The Clintons invented and perfected the Politics of Personal Destruction - whether partisan or intra-party - they destroy anyone or anything in their way. Secondly, the Republicans have treated Obama with much more respect, so far, than the Clintons treat Obama. Is Greeley indicating that the Clintons were attacking Obama as if the Clintons were Republicans? Greeley's inhaling too much incense!

33 posted on 01/30/2008 7:34:50 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: Chi-townChief

Is this the Roman Catholic priest who writes the trashy novels and lefty drivel?


34 posted on 01/30/2008 7:38:58 PM PST by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Chi-townChief
Can anyone tell me why they resorted to an attack strategy? Why, in an election in which the public has made clear that they are fed up with partisan negativity, did they strive to wipe out Obama at the very beginning by treating him like they were Republicans? Did no one on their staff warn them that their tactics would only emphasize the old charges that Hillary Clinton is a polarizer?

Hillary Clinton has repeatedly said that Democrats will rally around the winner of the primaries, no matter how rough the campaigns may have been. Democrats will kiss and make up. Maybe, but that is really a roll of the dice, a whistle in the dark as they walk by the cemetery in which they have buried the Democrats' hopes.

Bill could have gotten away with it - SHE CAN'T.

Bill is a liar, a serial abuser and a backstabber, and always has been. But his aw-shucks personality and charisma made sheeple overlook his obvious faults. Everyone knew he did it with Monica in the oral office, but he bit his lip, he stuck out his thumb, and gave the ladies that crooked grin while he lied though his teeth, and they bought it!

That "halo" effect doesn't translate to other people. While one person's bad behavior makes him a "likable rogue", the same antics from his shrill harpy of a wife don't get the same reviews.

That's my explanation of how you can use the same campaign staff, the same plan, and the same methods and get nowhere near the same reaction from the public.

35 posted on 01/30/2008 8:31:18 PM PST by ZOOKER ( Support global warming ... we midwesterners need a coastline too!)
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To: Chi-townChief

Below is an excerpt from a previous Greeley article reviewing Hillary’s book “Living History”.

My how Andy has turned on this “woman of deep religious faith”.

“Hence it would seem that the success of Sen. Clinton’s book is continued evidence that people are still fascinated and even charmed by the Clintons despite the ill will of the critics. They are not put off by a man whom the media dislike because he’s ‘’poor white trash’’ and is too smart for his own good, or by his wife, who is also too smart and should have stayed home to make cookies.

The biggest surprise of all for me when I began to read the book is that it is a love story and a story of religious faith. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton loves her husband. She has always loved him and still loves him. He retains his ability, as she says, to make her laugh. She has often been furious at him and with good reason. Yet she still loves him and still is ready to forgive him. The begrudgers of both genders who do not like that or scoff at it are not the majority—not the kind of women and men who rushed out to buy the book and collect her signature. Moreover, she is a woman of deep religious faith, an example of the socially concerned Methodism that has accomplished so much good in our country. “


36 posted on 01/30/2008 9:37:43 PM PST by saluki
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To: Chi-townChief

This is the same Greeley who once wrote the following about this “deeply religious woman” in an article reviewing her book “Living History”:

“The biggest surprise of all for me when I began to read the book is that it is a love story and a story of religious faith. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton loves her husband. She has always loved him and still loves him. He retains his ability, as she says, to make her laugh. She has often been furious at him and with good reason. Yet she still loves him and still is ready to forgive him. The begrudgers of both genders who do not like that or scoff at it are not the majority—not the kind of women and men who rushed out to buy the book and collect her signature. Moreover, she is a woman of deep religious faith, an example of the socially concerned Methodism that has accomplished so much good in our country. “


37 posted on 01/30/2008 9:37:55 PM PST by saluki
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To: Chi-townChief
Why, in an election in which the public has made clear that they are fed up with partisan negativity, did they strive to wipe out Obama at the very beginning by treating him like they were Republicans?

Nice try, sonny. In fact, they were treating Obama as if he were a Republican. They've done it before and nobody turned a hair.

38 posted on 01/30/2008 9:42:15 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Chi-townChief

Chicago’s pornographer-priest displays all the insight of a sea cucumber. Something about selling out to the peckerwoods from Arkinsaw that snuffs out meaningful thought.


39 posted on 01/30/2008 10:21:09 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Chi-townChief

The Clintons know winning is the name of the game, not how you played.

Countering the conventional wisdom, Hillary will sign Obama on as V-P to bring the Obama supporters back into the fold, and the Dem sheep will follow because they want to win.


40 posted on 01/31/2008 7:42:55 AM PST by wildbill
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