The Eternal Nazi: Watching Roman Polanski's The Pianist in Germany

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[Rummenigge]

Well maybe i should have kept my mouth shut... I am not at my best when I am angry...

...but then again - it's hard to just read and hold still when stupidity and the lack of cojones make a freak spill hate randomly over people he will never have the Honor to know.

So this (delta uniform mike bravo foxtrot uck) dared to judge 88 million people to be animals and slaughterers deep in their soul ? Because he heard the laughter of 2 or 3 guys in a cinema in Munich ? How high is the chance he wasn't waiting for any reaction of 'the German' he could support his crooked hate with ?

... and he's absolutely sure these folks in this cinema where Germans and sinisterly laughed about that tortured woman because they sensed a deep inside sympathy for the atrocities of the SS in Warsaw ?

The why o why didn't he do what I would have done - go up to them and ask them to behave ?

... or maybe he was just HAPPY with his twisted feverish dream view of 'the German' ?

I cannot stand the idea to sit in the hofbräuhaus next to this scum ball - he has no idea of Germany or the Germans and if I met him I would tell him that he should leave now.

May he happily join those dull Germans who celebrate anti Americanism today in Germany - they could tear their eyes and tongues out mutually.

He should leave us who think that there's only a chance for our future if we respect each other alone.

Flame Out !

and btw - does anyone NOT know who this guy is and what he does in this picture ?

[Rummenigge]

“At the Gymnasium the kids are systematically taught to act, think and be highly superior than the other 80%. “

Bravo sierra.

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

I don't totally agree that the German soul is always gravitated towards the negative. I believe the U.S. beat Germany in both world Wars before the turn of the 20th Century, mainly because we had the best Germans. We got the Germans who the hardest working, most efficient, and willing to take risks. If you look at a roster of U.S. troops in both World Wars, many have German ancestry.

Combine that with the natural optimism that comes from being American, the Krauts didn't stand a chance, and we'd kick their butts again. Of course, it wouldn't be as hard this time. The type-A Germans who didn't emigrate to America were slaughtered in WW's I and II. The ones left are the descendants of cowards, cripples, and draft-dodgers. Most have a French accent, for crying out loud. Then again, we won't have to fight these Beta-boys, Islam will take care of them.

I admire a person who's not afraid to make sweeping generalizations.

Silly me, I thought it was because we got the better Jews.

[dashing doofus]

Not really sure, since my entire education was in the US.

There are many things that I dislike about Germany, its politics, and socialist economy, but I do think the country has a first rate education system.

[True-Stu]

I believe the U.S. beat Germany in both world Wars before the turn of the 20th Century, mainly because we had the best Germans.

What?

No, we had the best Ulster Scots, aka Scotch-Irish. These folks who took so much s**t from the English , Irish Catholics and everyone in between that they came to this country and decided to take it no more - made up the bulk of Washington's army in the Revolutionary war; had the pioneer, tough as nails spirit, i.e., the Paxton Boys, Daniel Boone, Davey Crockett; their descendants made up more than a quarter of our 42 presidents, including Andrew Jackson, James Buchanan, Ulysses Grant, Theodore Roosevelt; are attributed with the phrases Give me Liberty or give me death," "What we have we hold" and "No Surrender;" and count George S. Patton in their number. It was definitely a team effort in WW1 and WW2, but if you want to give prime billing to any one nationality, history tells us its the Scots and even more particulary those Scots who migrated through Ulster County in Northern Ireland.

[dashing doofus]

Thanks. I too think the author is an idiot. And I have no great love for Germany and am glad I am a US citizen.

[BeAllYouCanBe]

Do you mind explaining your comment. Explain to an American the 3 tier process of education in Germany and what it is supposed to accomplish?

As I pointed out I worked for several years with German teenagers and after the first year I knew what to expect. Being thrown in an American high school with, “general population” was a shock.

I mean these we 15-16 year old kids who I’m sure would grow up but many had an attitude.

[Philistone]

Pretty much the same way in France. You take a test in middle school to determine whether you go to a general “lycee” or a technical/vocational “lycee”.

Then after high school graduation you can take a test to see whether you can go to a “grand ecole” - which, if you make it, secures your employment in the upper echelons of the state bureaucracy for life.

Yes, both groups are extremely arrogant.

[The_Media_never_lie]

Interesting....

[BeAllYouCanBe]

“I do think the country has a first rate education system.”

I really don’t know how it all plays out with the German education system. I do know that you can go to school for many years — paid for by the government — a benefit of socialism, no doubt.

I also know that there is a huge number of new “University” graduates that leave Germany each year. Preparing students to leave the country can’t be a good thing but it seems Germany gets many immigrants. Is this a German “Brain-Drain”?

[Clemenza]

“Germans make the best Americans, but the Worst Germans” -— Henry Miller (born Gottlieb Mueller)

[Rummenigge]

Explanation of my comment:

The folks in the ‘gymnasium’ are certainly not told that they are worth more then their counterparts in middle school or main school. That’s what you claimed is happening.

The opposite is true - teachers in general try to compensate elitary feelings.

Of course I would never say that elitary feeling don’t exist and are not favoured by our school system - but they are certainly not wanted or encouraged.

Certainly you wouldn’t think that elitarian minds don’t arrise in those on college towards those who didn’t make it... it just happens two years later in the US.

It’s definetly not a german problem defined in the genes of those with a german passport.

You also wouldn’t get me into saying that our school system is perfect and would not need restructuring. We need to loose the Main School or Middle School.

[Rummenigge]

Another guy who doesn’t know about germans.

[BeAllYouCanBe]

Then after high school graduation you can take a test to see whether you can go to a “grand ecole”

There is a whole lot of testing going on here. It is pretty worrisome to me considering that I graduated from college at age 29 and didn't start till I was 25. At 18, I wasn't mature enough or did I have the drive to succeed, but latter that came so I was a late bloomer. How do they handle the, "late bloomers" in France?

[dashing doofus]

I don’t think Germany is experiencing a brain drain. Obviously entrepreuneurial types will look to move to the USA, or Ireland, in order to escape their socialist tax structure.

I think Germany’s main problem is that their culture is being over-run by immigrants from Islamic nations, their socialist policies are resulting in economic stagnation, and that the nation remains half paralyzed with guilt over the atrocities committed during the Holocaust.

I do know there is tremendous tension between young Germans and the older generation. I’m just happy I’m here, and not there.

[Rummenigge]

“Obviously entrepreuneurial types will look to move to the USA, or Ireland, in order to escape their socialist tax structure.”

Corporate taxes are lower then in the US and less complicated over here - so they don’t do this anymore.

Actually there’s first immigrants from the US comming to germany.

[CholeraJoe]

Britain does the same thing with education. At age 11 children test and if they score high they’re put in college-prep courses. If not, Vo-tech. When I lived in Britain as a kid, our neighbor was heartbroken that her son, a year older than I hadn’t done well on his exams and would have to train as a bricklayer or plumber.

[dashing doofus]

When I attended public high school in this country, we had “enriched” tracks, normal tracks, and the track that people who were having trouble with a subject were placed in. There were no problems, and I don’t recall any arrogance.

How is your example of the French system much different from the people who attend elite private schools in the US, either at the primary or secondary levels? I live near the Boston area and worked in Manhattan for many years, so trust me, I believe I have come into contact with some of the most arrogant people walking the planet. (Almost exclusively hard core Democrats, obviously....)

[MuttTheHoople]

Silly me, I thought it was because we got the better Jews.

That too.

[BeAllYouCanBe]

"The folks in the ‘gymnasium’ are certainly not told that they are worth more then their counterparts in middle school or main school."

That is good input because I am not sure how it all works in Germany. I will say that some of the kids I worked with were really sweet and kind and considered the 1 year in the USA a real adventure. Also, there were some excellent students that worked hard and learned a lot.

So if you say that the system doesn't promote one school level over the next then I'll take your word for it. It may be kids trying to form a clique when they get here.

You mentioned that you think one of the levels wasn't necessary -- why is that and do most Germans believe that way too? (Most if not all Americans know that our 1-12 eductional system is hopelessly broken.)