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McCain Could Become the Reagan of Fiscal Discipline
Human Events ^ | 2/08/2008 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 02/09/2008 8:35:27 AM PST by rob777

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To: Bahbah
The guy is REALLY persuasive:

(e.g. McCain-Feingold’s free-speech limits, anti-ANWR-oil-drilling votes, a mixed tax-cut record, creeping Kyotoism, and cold feet on waterboarding),

Yea, I'm on board now.

41 posted on 02/09/2008 8:55:56 AM PST by DManA
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To: rob777

I agree that McCain has opposed wasteful government spending and that is good. But McCain’s position on government subsidies for illegal aliens and his support of programs to combat supposed global warming are far more likely to cause huge fiscal problems.


42 posted on 02/09/2008 8:56:36 AM PST by detective
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To: ZULU

“I’m going to be around to watch his defeat in November”

I plan on saying “We told you so” quite a bit. Probably pointing and laughing as well


43 posted on 02/09/2008 8:58:17 AM PST by Grunthor (Juan McAmnesty - The End of America; Comitted to Mexico and 100 *&**& years!!??)
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To: Grunthor

What are we going to do about it now???

I supported Fred, but Fred didn’t win. Are we supposed to take our football and go home and ruin the country with Hillary or Obama because we didn’t get our candidate??? I am no big fan of McCain, but I am going to be a better man than McCain was after 2001 and put the country ahead of *my* personal feelings.


44 posted on 02/09/2008 8:59:10 AM PST by Perdogg (Vice President Richard B Cheney - A National Treasure)
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To: rob777

Another chatterer that I never heard of giving conservatives a lecture on the Keating Five guy.


45 posted on 02/09/2008 8:59:24 AM PST by Biblebelter (I will NEVER EVER vote for McCain or any other current Senator.)
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To: ZULU
I agree and I have no intention of leaping from buildings. I’m going to be around to watch his defeat in November and work for real conservatives in Congress and a real Republican in 2012 or a conservative Third Party.

Now you're talking brother!

That's the spirit we need to curb this traitor!

46 posted on 02/09/2008 9:01:05 AM PST by ScratInTheHat (It's about the illegal’s stupid!)
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To: Perdogg

I’m not claiming any such thing. I’m basing my decision not to vote for McCain on his KNOWN past record and associations. For me, that’s enough. I had no hand in choosing this man, and they’ll have to carry on without my vote. Whether or not my vote matters or not is another matter. But I won’t vote for him OR support him.


47 posted on 02/09/2008 9:01:25 AM PST by MizSterious (If it's Hillary v. McCain, I refuse to vote for EITHER liberal !)
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To: Perdogg
There can be no economic recovery so long as Juan McAmnesty intends to sell out this nation. We cannot ever hope to attain fiscal responsibility so long as McCain intends to give Social Security, free health care, and a host of other not-paid-for government services to the illegal invaders.

48 posted on 02/09/2008 9:03:28 AM PST by Digital Sniper (Hello, "Undocumented Immigrant." I'm an "Undocumented Border Patrol Agent.")
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To: Perdogg

EVERY time the Republican Party foists a rotten candidate on us (national or local level) I’m told to suck it up and vote for the guy anyway. I’ve usually done it, and lots of others have too. They got used to that behavior, and figured they can do what they want, and we’ll support them anyway.

This time, I’m making a stand. A personal stand, perhaps, but a stand. They can do what they like, but they’ll do it without my vote, my support, and perhaps most importantly, without my money. If Hillary runs the country into the ground, then maybe people will wake up. If they don’t, the country didn’t have much going for it anyway.


49 posted on 02/09/2008 9:05:56 AM PST by MizSterious (If it's Hillary v. McCain, I refuse to vote for EITHER liberal !)
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To: Perdogg
I supported Fred, but Fred didn’t win. Are we supposed to take our football and go home and ruin the country with Hillary or Obama because we didn’t get our candidate??? I am no big fan of McCain, but I am going to be a better man than McCain was after 2001 and put the country ahead of *my* personal feelings.

Here is your mistake... objection to McCain is NOT based upon personal feelings... objection to McCain is his history and he hates conservatives on the same wavelength as Hillary. Now 'fairness' dictates an honest evaluation of who John McCain really is and not get caught up in this paralyzing fear of who Hillary is. They both come from the same ideological bed. My problem with McCain is he is a wolf trying to wear the sheep's clothing, it does not fit and he knows it.

50 posted on 02/09/2008 9:07:17 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: rob777
What a load.

True, McCain heretically opposed President Bush’s 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. However, he now appears penitent and observant.

Bull. He defends his vote, although it's on different grounds from what he said at the time. He's no tax cutter.

51 posted on 02/09/2008 9:07:39 AM PST by xjcsa (Limbaugh/Petraeus 2008)
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To: rob777
A budget hawk? How so? In your dreams. And how short our memories. The cost of his amnesty bill was estimated to be $89 billion a year. That is he wanted to spend, according to Heritage. From Heritage and Boortz: ...About $30,160 every year in immediate benefits and services for every low-skill immigrant household.

To compound the distributional deficit, low-skill immigrant households pay less in taxes than do the average U.S. Households. These low-skill immigrant households pay about $10,573 a year in taxes. Subtract this from the amount government spends on them and you have a deficit of $19,588.

..Let's carry these numbers for our wonderful illegal -- soon to be legal -- households out a few years. Rector says that the average adult lifespan for each head of household is about 60 years. The research shows that this distributional deficit will continue throughout this life span for low-skill immigrant households. The total? About $1.2 million for each low-skill immigrant household.

In 2004 there were 4.5 million low-skill immigrant households in the U.S. More math: Multiply the average net distributional deficit of $19,588 per household and you get a total deficit of $89.1 billion .... per year! Ask yourself .. can this country afford this? Can we afford an amnesty bill that will legitimize and legalize these illegal-alien households, and millions more to come? No. The costs are financially unsustainable.

52 posted on 02/09/2008 9:08:05 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: Perdogg

“What are we going to do about it now???”

Most likely lose in a landslide reminiscent of Reagan/Mondale. Then...the party needs to do some major restructuring of it’s primary system before ‘12. Move strong conservative states to the front. Only these states can be winner-take-all. Iowa, New Hampshire, New York.....all to the back.. Give the more reliably conservative states more than half of the delegates needed to win. Close all the primaries, NO indies, NO dims.

Perhaps then that party would put forth their first conservative candidate since 1984.


53 posted on 02/09/2008 9:08:54 AM PST by Grunthor (Juan McAmnesty - The End of America; Comitted to Mexico and 100 *&**& years!!??)
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To: cripplecreek

I saw that idiot too and I’m pretty sure he was a democrat. But I think it says a lot about the Republican party that we thought he might have been a pubbie.


54 posted on 02/09/2008 9:09:13 AM PST by G.Love ( Romney '12)
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To: MizSterious

That’s fine and you are an adult and you certainly have the right to do so,

But be prepared for Hillary’s tax on 401k/private retirement plans to fund social security, be prepared for Charlie Rangel’s tax plan, be prepared for illegals to have drivers licenses, be prepared for legalized partial birth abortions and be prepared for 20 to 30 years of Clinton Federal bench appointments, be prepared of our troops under Hilabama the C-in-C.

And if you accuse me of using scare tactics, all I have to say is you are damn right! The thought of Hillary as President scares me to no end.

So, go bet on “another Carter to get another Reagan” bet, but don’t be disappointed when that doesn’t work out.


55 posted on 02/09/2008 9:09:15 AM PST by Perdogg (Vice President Richard B Cheney - A National Treasure)
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To: Perdogg
McCain has assemble an awesome economic team, but you are going to get the “Juan Hernandez” photo posted in about 10 seconds.

Seems you've bought into McCain's strategy of listing names of people as a substitute for substantive discussion. Don't forget it was Warren Rudman who got us David Souter.

56 posted on 02/09/2008 9:09:16 AM PST by xjcsa (Limbaugh/Petraeus 2008)
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To: Perdogg

I didn’t post the picture of Burger King, but see number 52. If he is a budget hawk, I am the Queen of Sheba.


57 posted on 02/09/2008 9:09:51 AM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours)
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To: cripplecreek

I saw that idiot too and I’m pretty sure he was a democrat. But I think it says a lot about the Republican party that we thought he might have been a pubbie.


58 posted on 02/09/2008 9:10:02 AM PST by G.Love ( Romney '12)
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To: rob777

59 posted on 02/09/2008 9:10:31 AM PST by alicewonders (Conservative without a country.)
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To: rob777

Deroy Murdock sounds like an abused wife. Sure, he beats me, but he’s really sorry this time. And what other alternative do I have?


60 posted on 02/09/2008 9:10:42 AM PST by NittanyLion
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