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In defense of Catholic teaching on homosexuality
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | 02/11/2008 | PAT PHILLIPS

Posted on 02/12/2008 5:29:53 PM PST by Zender500

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To: gracesdad; Zender500

“ONLY 4 percent???? I’m guessing that’s HUGE compared to the general population.”

It would be, but not compared to the population of men afflicted with same-sex attraction disorder. About a third of the sex crimes involving children are committed by this two percent of the population.

However, I think the 4% number refers to priests who misbehaved with parishoners of all ages and both sexes. Only a tiny, tiny number actually molested children. The huge bulk — I’ve heard numbers ranging from 80% to 99% — were the archetypal predation of men who suffer from SSAD on youths past puberty but not yet to full adulthood.


41 posted on 02/13/2008 10:13:32 PM PST by dsc
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To: moonman

You don’t seem to know the definition of “entertain” in this context.

In Catholic moral theology, to “entertain” a temptation is not the same thing as merely having a temptation. To “entertain” is to choose to keep the tempting thought or image in mind, to keep one’s attention on it deliberately.

Having a certain attraction, even being bothered by it, even being sometimes obsessed with it, or even suffering in the process of resisting it, is not the same as “entertaining” it.


42 posted on 02/13/2008 10:16:15 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: gracesdad

Four percent is a BETTER average than the general population.

A group that is WAY above the general population with regard to sexual abuse is public schrool teachers.


43 posted on 02/13/2008 10:19:50 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan
What we are looking for is to encourage right thinking about what God says is sin and debauchery, and to discourage modern godless psychology. For example, we need to openly speak out against the kind of psychology that sends an 8 year-old little boy to school dressed as a girl (subject of other recent threads).
44 posted on 02/14/2008 6:26:06 AM PST by John Leland 1789
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To: Arthur McGowan

I was being sarcastic. If one group of deviants demands attention the others should also demand acceptance by Catholic teachers. Don’t get me wrong, I am in full support of the Catholic doctrine on the issue of deviant behavior is sinful and should be taught as such. Sorry for the confusion.


45 posted on 02/14/2008 11:00:03 AM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Hallmarks of Liberalism: Ingratitude and Envy))
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To: Zender500; All
Romans 1:25-27 tells us that same-sex sexual relationships are a consequence of idolatry. In other words, such relationships are a consequence of disobeying the 1ST COMMANDMENT, a major aspect of the GREATEST COMMANDMENT, to love the jealous God with all your being.

Homosexuals need to keep in mind, however, that the good news of the gospel is not about how God despises same-sex sexual relationships. In fact, 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 indicates that certain members of that church had been slaves to such relationships but had been cleansed in Jesus' name. So these former homosexuals had evidently repented and accepted God's grace to straighten their lives out.

John 3:16
Revelation 3:20

46 posted on 02/14/2008 11:35:00 AM PST by Amendment10
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“The bishop (and the Catholic Church) are only injuring themselves by trying to draw a distinction between priest who abuse children and those who abuse adolescents.”

I’ve heard this argument before. But, it infers to me a lack of understanding of what is being discussed in the differentiation between sexual abuse of children vs postpubescent adolecents. The point of this clarification is not to lessen the seriousness of either of these actions, but to clarify that most of the abuses were homosexual in nature rather than true pedophilia. In fact, I have read many times that often homosexuals will cultivate relationships with teenagers as a way of recruiting more into their circle.

The biggest irony in this entire subject is that liberals insist that the Catholic clergy abuses are pedophilia; and at the same time insist that the boy scouts must include homosexuals as leaders. It is obvious why the MSM does not want to clarify the true nature of the majority of the priestly abue cases. It would make their actions against the boy scouts seem ridiculous!


47 posted on 02/14/2008 11:52:23 AM PST by Gumdrop
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