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Haditha Marine cleared of murder charges will challenge prosecution
Defend Our Marines ^ | February 28, 2008 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 02/28/2008 10:15:23 AM PST by RedRover

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Nat Helms is a Contributing Editor to Defend Our Marines. He is a Vietnam veteran, former police officer, war correspondent, and, most recently, author of My Men Are My Heroes: The Brad Kasal Story (Meredith Books, 2007).

1 posted on 02/28/2008 10:15:32 AM PST by RedRover
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To: 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; AndrewWalden; Antoninus; AliVeritas; ardara; ...

2 posted on 02/28/2008 10:20:02 AM PST by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover

Someone name a grunt that hasn’t made such comments as “kill em all” in frustration during hard situations. It’s nothing more than a usual exercise in blowing off steam.


3 posted on 02/28/2008 10:24:51 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: RedRover

Marine Bump!

I have been saying for it seems like years now that these Marines will ALL be exonerated .
My gut tells me that these Iraqis were killed by crossfire and/or by the bad guys before they “bugged out.”

In any case, no autopsy, no murder convictions.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


4 posted on 02/28/2008 10:38:37 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: RedRover

Good.


5 posted on 02/28/2008 10:44:15 AM PST by lilycicero (DefendOurMarines.org)
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To: RedRover

Good news that LCpl Sharratt will testify. I hadn’t even considered that he might have to worry about civilian prosecution in federal court. Glad Sharratt’s lawyers were able to get both approvals.


6 posted on 02/28/2008 10:47:47 AM PST by Girlene
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To: RedRover

Good for Justin, his buddies, and all Marines.


7 posted on 02/28/2008 10:48:54 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: RedRover
I some times wonder if the people pushing this trial have ever been through a real down and dirty fire fight. I have been out of the Army almost 40 years and I shake my head at some of the crap that I see.
8 posted on 02/28/2008 10:57:58 AM PST by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: RedRover
If you would like to help with the civilian lawyer’s legal fees for the
Haditha Marines you can do so by going to these sites.

SSgt. Frank Wuterich

Lance Cpl. Stephen B. Tatum

1st Lt. Andrew Grayson

Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani

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9 posted on 02/28/2008 11:06:02 AM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: kellynla
of murder/manslaughter ? I agree. but not all will have been exonerated.
hastily, in my opinion, a two-star general and two other senior officers were issued career-ending letters of censure for not having ordered an investigation.

and I think Lt. Col. Jeffrey Chessani will get some sort of slap on the wrist.

10 posted on 02/28/2008 11:12:40 AM PST by stylin19a
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“investigate?”

investigate what?

we’re at war
people get killed
they have the videos, and if no one committed any assassinations then lets move on...
gezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I don’t know but this whole issue sounds like a lot of Bravo Sierra.

the more I read about this, the more I think it’s just some JAG trying to make rank off some Grunts.

Semper Fi,
Kelly


11 posted on 02/28/2008 11:24:45 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Girlene

There is a Marine on charge of, iirc, murder, in either a San Bernardino or Riverside court because another Marine thinks he remembered something bad happening when he (the other Marine) went to take the polygraph test for Secret Service employment.

No ability to investigate. Nothing but rumor to go on. Anyone know what happened or is happening in that case? I lost track of it.


12 posted on 02/28/2008 11:26:21 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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Last week Zimmermann’s defense team was caught by surprise when the government unilaterally granted Tatum immunity to testify in Wuterich’s court-martial and removed the chief prosecutor from his case.

Sullivan's gone?

I wonder if they're trying to avoid him having to explain Mendoza's "deal":

Sullivan, who is prosecuting Wuterich, may eventually face some heat of his own for how and why star prosecution witness LCpl Humberto Mendoza managed to get transferred to Sullivan’s Chicago-based reserve unit as a driver after he was granted immunity. The defense also wants to know if Sullivan intervened in making Mendoza’s immigration problems disappear. Last week Mendoza stumbled his way through a day of testimony under Sullivan’s tutelage.

At one point during cross-examination Vokey tried to discover if Mendoza’s civilian attorneys had ever made any deals with the prosecution. An unidentified female representing herself as Mendoza’s civilian attorney from Philadelphia rose from the gallery to speak, but was cut off by multiple objections from Sullivan. The answer was left hanging when Ware called for a recess. Later on one of the defense attorneys was heard to mutter, “This isn’t the end of that.”

And finally, the defense wants to know if Mendoza’s lawyers allowed their client to be interviewed by prosecutor’s hunting for a “perfect witness’ before they decided to grant him immunity and provide him the alleged benefits of serving in Chicago instead of staying at Camp Pendleton where he was easily accessible. If they did than Mendoza’s remarkable about face against his former squad mates could be more easily explained.

http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/Blog/DefendOurMarines-MarineDefenderFired-NatHelms.htm

13 posted on 02/28/2008 11:33:12 AM PST by 4woodenboats (defendourtroops.org defendourmarines.org)
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To: Grimmy; kellynla
That's Nazario. (sorry, forget his rank) Had an honorable discharge, was working as a police officer during a probationary stage, and is now being prosecuted for the killing of a terrorist in Fallujah.

No body, no name, no autopsy, no evidence the terrorist in question ever existed, just a handful of fellow Marines being threatened with similar charges unless they give NCIS a sacrificial lamb.

This technique of pitting Marines against each other under threats of life imprisonment or worse - and the practice of refusing to record interrogations has been common factors in every one of the cases we've studied.

14 posted on 02/28/2008 11:46:30 AM PST by 4woodenboats (defendourtroops.org defendourmarines.org)
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Sullivan’s off the Tatum case but is still in the picture on other cases (at least last I heard).

The prosecution may decide that Mendoza is more trouble than he’s worth. They’ll have fresh Iraqi testimony for the court martials and, after the twin debacles of Dela Cruz and Mendoza, that’s where they may be placing their bets.


15 posted on 02/28/2008 11:50:52 AM PST by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Grimmy

Maybe the prosecutors ought to spend time actually getting to know a grunt or two. They might decide to throw in the towel.


16 posted on 02/28/2008 11:54:09 AM PST by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: RedRover
Great news BUMP!!

Justin Sharratt will testify on behalf of two enlisted Marine infantrymen waiting general court-martial in the infamous case.... It is expected by both defense teams and courtroom observers that Justin Sharratt will provide testimony beneficial to Lance Corporal Stephen Tatum and Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich.... The decision was made by Lieutenant General Samuel T. Helland and Assistant U.S. Attorney Alice S. Fisher.

I guess this says something (very good!) about Lt. Gen. Helland.

17 posted on 02/28/2008 11:58:35 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: RedRover

Please add me to your ping list.


18 posted on 02/28/2008 1:20:34 PM PST by amom (Proud Blue Star Mom of a US Soldier protecting our freedom from the sandbox (IHALY2TONK)
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To: RedRover; jazusamo
This is very positive news. Justin, I am sure, will be a solid asset to the defense.
19 posted on 02/28/2008 1:35:25 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing; RedRover

Absolutely, Smooth. It’ll be a refreshing counter to the Mendoza and Dela Cruz testimony.


20 posted on 02/28/2008 1:46:54 PM PST by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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