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Study: Tolls would ease traffic congestion (MD)
FrederickNewsPost.com ^ | 3-23-08 | Cailin McGough

Posted on 03/24/2008 6:32:24 AM PDT by JZelle

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To: LaineyDee

I think its even worse than that.

Taxpayer dollars and/or tolls were used to build those roads in the first place. Now, they will be an additional fee to use them. A plan that only a limo liberal could love.


21 posted on 03/24/2008 7:07:37 AM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: catman67; Corin Stormhands; Gabz
After sticking us with the largest tax increase in history to “fix” the structural deficit, they are already moaning about tax income shortfalls. Here in Montgomery County, the chief executive is whining about a shortfall in county revenue and wants to raise property taxes

Welcome to our world. Gov. Marky Mark (Warner) and Gov. Gridlock (Kaine) pushed through huge tax increases in the last few years in order to fix our structural "problems". Lo and behold, they still want more tax money because problems remain.

I hate politicians.

22 posted on 03/24/2008 7:09:03 AM PDT by iceskater
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To: JZelle
Apparently they're not getting enough money in Maryland.

Everybody should know that the cure for ALL problems is to increase taxes. It has worked so well in the past.

23 posted on 03/24/2008 7:11:21 AM PDT by dearolddad (Opinions are like rectums: everybody has one.)
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To: dashing doofus
A plan that only a limo liberal could love.

I agree. The thing that disturbs me... this is happening all over the country..... and it's a good way to shut down traffic flow......say "in case of a national emergency", such as terrorist attacks, etc. I'm usually not a conspiracy theorist... but me thinks somethin's cookin'.

24 posted on 03/24/2008 7:13:58 AM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Corin Stormhands

The tolls in Richmond are going up? So they’re going to make you pay even more to get stuck at the toll plaza on the Powhitetrash Parkway?

}:-)4


25 posted on 03/24/2008 7:26:58 AM PDT by Moose4 (Hey GOP...don't move toward the middle. Move the middle toward us.)
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To: JZelle

Petty nickle and dime socialists. Music to read this thread by...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrlWRKUrLBc&feature=related


26 posted on 03/24/2008 7:27:13 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: MinnesotaLibertarian
I think you're missing the point. The idea is to encourage people to car pool. Four people in one car takes up less space than four people in four cars.

But the tolls should encourage people to carpool, so you don't need an additional incentive. You want a mechanism where each car has to pay some amount, because each car uses up a certain capacity of the space. A car is a car is a car and uses some amount of road space. If I'm in a traffic jam of four person cars or one person cars, I'm still in a traffic jam. True, perhaps there would be more cars without the HOV discount, but if there's ever a backup on a congestion-based toll road, it simply means the tolls aren't high enough. The HOV discount is merely an effort at social engineering.

27 posted on 03/24/2008 7:33:27 AM PDT by Koblenz (The Dem Platform, condensed: 1. Tax and Spend. 2. Cut and Run. 3. Man on Man)
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To: Moose4

Yep, they’re going from $0.50 to $0.70 in September.

I drive through three tolls. To and from work will cost me $4.20 per day. Almost $100 per month.

I’ll be driving in on Midlothian from here on out.


28 posted on 03/24/2008 7:35:26 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (When life gives you lemons...don't forget the vodka...)
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To: JZelle

The government’s thirst for more and more of the people’s money is unsatiable. And there is always a slimey politician around to make that happen.

Of course millions of their subjects will complain and then vote for those same slimey politicians that want to make them bleed. It’s called insanity (liberalism).


29 posted on 03/24/2008 8:11:27 AM PDT by subterfuge (Obama will NOT get the nomination.)
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To: Koblenz

I actually think it makes the plan more likely to work than others I’ve seen, though I’m still skeptical. To me, providing an additional discount to carpoolers does suggest that it may be a sincere attempt to reduce traffic rather than just collect more revenue.

On the other hand, I think of I-394 in Minneapolis. We have a similar setup for the diamond express lane - you can either pay, or its free if you have a carpool. That was definitely meant to be a revenue-getter, since we had previously had the diamond express lanes strictly for carpools only.


30 posted on 03/24/2008 8:21:51 AM PDT by MinnesotaLibertarian
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To: Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


31 posted on 03/24/2008 1:39:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Go buy Cloverfield when it comes out. No frickin' politics!)
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To: longtermmemmory

They only have themselves to blame for that one: they mandate fuel efficiency.


32 posted on 03/24/2008 1:44:52 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Go buy Cloverfield when it comes out. No frickin' politics!)
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To: Koblenz

And when there is an HOV discount, single drivers get to subsidize gangs of tree-huggers in their little pious-mobiles.


33 posted on 03/24/2008 1:49:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Go buy Cloverfield when it comes out. No frickin' politics!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

PERSONAL Vehicles were NEVER supposed to become efficient or more comfortable! They were supposed to become so useless as to force people to sit in the stinky smelly vapor trap that is public transportation.

This way they could control where and how you could travel. Sorry you can’t travel to that state there are no rail lines there. sorry you can go live in the mountains or along the lake because there is no trasport to there.

AND they could tax you per move. Just look at cruise passenter port taxes. You pay a tax for .... being at the port, as a passenger ON TOP OF the use tax the ship pays.

It is just movement control by regulation.


34 posted on 03/24/2008 2:45:41 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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