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I feel more sympathy for the police officer(s) forced to down a gun wielding suspect and the dead K-9 partner than anyone that brandishes a handgun in a threatening manner to law enforcement and ends up dead for it.

The suspect is confronted, pulls a gun out from under his shirt? Yeah, sorry buddy, wrong move. You didn't get shot over a dog. You fired shots at police officers and were hit by returned fire.

I'm so sick of these families. Okay, they were innocent, their little angel most certainly was not. You do not brandish a weapon in a threatening manner against police officers or K-9 units and expect to live.

One less scumbag available to pollute the gene pool. Thank you Pittsburgh PD for doing your jobs!

1 posted on 05/07/2008 6:09:51 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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I feel more sympathy for the police officer(s) forced to down a gun wielding suspect and the dead K-9 partner than anyone that brandishes a handgun in a threatening manner to law enforcement and ends up dead for it.

The suspect is confronted, pulls a gun out from under his shirt? Yeah, sorry buddy, wrong move. You didn't get shot over a dog. You fired shots at police officers and were hit by returned fire.


I would like to second that! It's tragic that there was a loss of life on both ends, however, I find it difficult to believe that this man had no idea he was firing at an officer.
25 posted on 05/07/2008 6:26:24 AM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan ("Marsupials do...'cause they're fast...")
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According to accounts so far, he didn’t exactly brandish the weapon.

According to witnesses, the suspect had his hands in his coat pockets.. the police set the dog on him, he pulled out a .357 and shot the dog, and the police shot him.

I don’t know much more at this point than that... what exactly lead to the cops deciding to unleash the dog at him... however I can’t see any sane person with a weapon not pulling it out to shoot a dog that’s going for him.

I would assume the police issued the suspect orders to show his hands, or something else before releasing the dog, but I don’t know. However, I can’t condemn anyone for instinctively shooting an animal coming after them.

Understand I am not condemning the police for their actions in this matter, I don’t know the exact situation so with the facts as they are I can’t say.. However I can’t say that if a dog was coming after me and I had a gun that I would not do the exact same thing... to expect any human to take a dog attack so they can stay in compliance with an order is a bit unrealistic.


26 posted on 05/07/2008 6:26:28 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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They will pay for killing my son.

No doubt thinking of the most recent multimillion dollar case...you know the one where that purely innocent child (ignore the stolen car and running from police) was killed by the big bad evil police officers at Christmas time (sniff, sniff)/s
29 posted on 05/07/2008 6:31:48 AM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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Where are the PETA lunatics when we need them?


32 posted on 05/07/2008 6:34:21 AM PDT by pabianice
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The officers were completely justified for shooting the guy, anyone stupid enough to pull a gun out with two police officers there and shoot the dog is going to be shot on the spot, even most kindergartners know this who live in urban neighborhoods.

That being said I am of mixed mind on anyone striking a police dog with your bare hands being charged the same as striking a human officer.

If any dog, police or otherwise is biting you then you are going to defend yourself different than if an officer is wrestling you down.

Watching a mouthful of teeth come jumping at your face it is instinctive to protect yourself and strike the dog. This is an instinct so primal that someone shouldn’t be charged for it in a stressful situation IMHO.


33 posted on 05/07/2008 6:34:37 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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OK. I became interested enough to read the entire article, in order to find out what the orginal call was all about:

Harper said the dog's handler and another officer, both in uniform, were driving on Arlington Avenue in a marked police car to respond to a report of shots fired when they spotted Justin Jackson. They stopped because they believed he was carrying a gun, the chief said.

But, this also struck me:

Others saw the shooting as a tragic reminder of the general decline in the neighborhood.

"I think it's kinda scary. You can't come out at night. I think a lot of it is the drugs and guns and violence," Sue Carroll said.

"We gotta get out of here," agreed Lisa Fehr, who still lives a few blocks away on the South Side Slopes where she was raised. "As soon as my two daughters graduate (from high school). People are walking around with guns. We can't live here."

Something tells me that at least one source of the violence in the neighborhood has now been eliminated...

34 posted on 05/07/2008 6:35:38 AM PDT by LRS
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'Our dog got shot so we shot him.' They killed my son over a dog,"

No your dumb dead son opened fire on POLICE OFFICERS.And got what he deserved.
38 posted on 05/07/2008 6:39:37 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: There is no god named Allah, and Muhammed is a false prophet)
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The cops tried to use non-lethal force. Who was the guy going to shoot next?


47 posted on 05/07/2008 6:44:12 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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Is there an email address or street address where one can send donations, flowers etc. to the family of the dog?


53 posted on 05/07/2008 6:49:27 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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Why did the cops put the police dog at risk when the suspect pulled out his gun? They had sufficient cause to shoot him on the grounds of imminent danger to themselves and thus not risk the dog’s life.


55 posted on 05/07/2008 6:50:49 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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Good, I’m glad they shot the POS. IMHO, cops who wantonly shoot citizens’ dogs should be shot, and the same goes with citizens who shoot police dogs.


61 posted on 05/07/2008 6:57:43 AM PDT by lesser_satan (Save the earth. Make biofuels out of eco-fascists.)
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Once they get to big to hold in one arm, momma needs another cute baby, and Dekarius over there be fine, he can be the new babys daddy.Justin be put on the floor to fends for himselves on the streets of Knoxville, He still get fed, and gets the $200 dollar runnin shoes, but he start runnin with the the local feral kids.
But he’s a good boy, one of mommas’ angels.Sure he get himself into some trouble, his daddy, what was his name, he’s still in jail.Hes a proud man too, he’s got like 7 kids, by a three(four?) baby mommas, he’s just a good man too.They all just do some time. It be the governments fault you know.
Like Biggie Smalls and Tupac, government conspiracy, sharks following different patterns because of the trade you know,Americans Chickens comin’ home to rooossssttt!
Change!


62 posted on 05/07/2008 6:57:54 AM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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They killed my son over a dog

No, they killed your son because he shot and killed a police officer. The fact that it was a canine is irrelevant.

67 posted on 05/07/2008 7:05:35 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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Head shot! Good job.


75 posted on 05/07/2008 7:15:16 AM PDT by MaxMax (It's not the politics I despise, It's the politicians for being so stupid..)
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Dogs should only be used for search and rescue. The officer has a perfectly good gun. No need to put the dog in harm’s way.


80 posted on 05/07/2008 7:23:49 AM PDT by mysterio
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Problem is if I were walking about armed and a dog, any dog, under any conditions, so much as snarled in my direction, I would be compelled to destroy the dog.

Think about it, not a single person on FR would put up with being attacked by a dog if he or she could do anything about it.

I think we need a bit more information on this one before we can render judgment.

81 posted on 05/07/2008 7:26:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Very sad that the dog died. Good riddance to the perp.


97 posted on 05/07/2008 7:42:11 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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On most threads, I get labeled as a “Cop Hater” by those I call “Boot Lickers”.

But... in this particular case... the Cop was 10000000000000% justified.

You drawn down on a cop... human or otherwise... you put your life at risk.

BIH !


112 posted on 05/07/2008 7:56:55 AM PDT by RachelFaith (Doing NOTHING... about the illegals already here IS Amnesty !!)
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This moron was going to get shot on the street sooner or later anyway.


122 posted on 05/07/2008 8:08:55 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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"The suspect had his hand under his shirt. When the officer told him to show his hand, (Jackson) pulled out a gun," Harper said. "

Another dead worthless thug!! GOOD!!

125 posted on 05/07/2008 8:09:33 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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