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Congress looking at steel pennies and nickels
ap.google.com ^ | 05/07/2008 | By LAURIE KELLMAN

Posted on 05/08/2008 8:42:43 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Ouderkirk

Especially since Andy Jackson was a Democrat!..............


21 posted on 05/08/2008 8:57:46 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: Red Badger
Here are my thoughts:

It's time for a thoroughgoing coinage and currency reform. It took 121 years from the ratification of the Constitution to put a dead politician on a coin, the last non-dead politician coin fell in 1948.

Step one: No more dead politicians, at least not for another 121 years. Presidents are not kings, they are not sovereign equivalents, and they don't belong on our coinage. Animals (Flying Eagle), stylized figures of Liberty, and representative (symbolic) people are all acceptable.

Step two: Start the coinage at 10c, and go to $5.

22 posted on 05/08/2008 8:59:02 AM PDT by Jim Noble (ride 'em like you stole 'em)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Does this mean that the US of today is in the same dire straights the country was in, in 1943?
23 posted on 05/08/2008 8:59:53 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence")
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To: Red Badger
a new 50 cent piece with REAGAN’s likeness on it!!!!!...............

No more dead politicians. Not even Reagan.

24 posted on 05/08/2008 9:01:01 AM PDT by Jim Noble (ride 'em like you stole 'em)
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To: Red Badger

If government would stop deficit spending, it might only cost a penny to make a penny again.


25 posted on 05/08/2008 9:01:27 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Red Badger

“getting rid of the penny made sense but wasn’t politically doable”

No, that would be an admission that the Gov has stolen the savings of everyone holding dollars by devaluing the currency (printing lots and lots of little pieces of paper)

The Emperor has no clothes. Just waiting for some little kid to point it out to the huddled masses.

Saw an interesting post a few days back: The inflation rate from the beginning of the country up to 1913 (the year the Federal Reserve was created) was 8%. Not 8% per year, a total of 8%. The inflation rate between 1913 and today is something like 2600% (I’m not sure I remember this number but 2600% is close). Who need taxes when the government can simple print your money away?


26 posted on 05/08/2008 9:05:47 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: Red Badger; All
Y'all are crazy! Removing these elements from our currency just ensures that price changes will be more dramatic. This really isn't anything new; when I was in junior high (1968) this was an issue, and at that time the penny cost 63 TIMES what it cost to produce a dollar coin. We jokingly said that would make a penny worth 63 dollars!

Rather than eliminate our small denominations, it would be better to revalue our dollar by a factor of 10. That is, issue new currency where 1 dollar equals 10 old dollars. Other countries have done it, it's not that traumatic.

As to the metals used, I think plain steel is stupid; it rusts. Stainless steel requires chromium, which is probably skyrocketing too. What are the Europeans using? They've got some cheap base metal coins that are better than steel.

27 posted on 05/08/2008 9:06:43 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: eyeamok

It’s a shame they put that Constitution thing down in writing.

There’s always some smart-ass in the room pointing out our Government’s treasonous acts.

Good thing they have no problem ignoring us. Or they might come after you (and me).


28 posted on 05/08/2008 9:10:12 AM PDT by live+let_live
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To: Red Badger

This is nothing new, they have been “stealing my pennies and nickels for years....


29 posted on 05/08/2008 9:13:37 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Red Badger

“It now costs more than a penny to make a penny. And the cost of a nickel is more than 7 1/2 cents.”.....

...And only our dumb ass governmental bureaucracy would continue wasting taxpayer money making them....


30 posted on 05/08/2008 9:15:18 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Pre-1985 pennies are are worth $2.08 melted down for every hundred ($1.00 face value); sort your piggy banks.


31 posted on 05/08/2008 9:15:46 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Red Badger

“Especially since Andy Jackson was a Democrat”

And not a particularly good man either!


32 posted on 05/08/2008 9:16:18 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: bigbob

With that attitude advancements would never be made. Coin changers need replacing often enough already so while it might cause plenty of complaining it wouldn’t be all that disruptive. Many won’t even take a penny.


33 posted on 05/08/2008 9:18:25 AM PDT by newzjunkey (McCain, Liberal. Hillary, Socialist. Obama, Marxist. 2008, year of no choices.)
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To: frogjerk

Australia rounds (up or down) to the nearest 5 cents. The theory being you “win” as often as you “lose” while they can do away without 1 cent piece.


34 posted on 05/08/2008 9:20:13 AM PDT by newzjunkey (McCain, Liberal. Hillary, Socialist. Obama, Marxist. 2008, year of no choices.)
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To: Red Badger

One enterprising fellow has made a device for sorting out pre-1982 pennies from post 1982. Clever device. Videos of the machine sorting coins on the site.

http://www.ryedalecoin.com/Gallery.html

I can’t see any great value in eliminating pennies and nickels without Congress commissioning at least a $350 million study.


35 posted on 05/08/2008 9:25:04 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ()OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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To: Red Badger

so if I insisted on being paid in pennies i could melt it down and make almost double my money back?


36 posted on 05/08/2008 9:26:48 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: Slapshot68

Pennies (or more properly one cent coins) should be abolished. The Dutch abolished the 1/100 guilder before going on the Euro, and the Aussies abolished their pennies.

All retail transactions in Australia have a ‘rounding’ item: if the total purchase plus applicable taxes has a remainder of 1 or 2 AU cents when divided by 5, they are dropped and the purchase pays less, if it has a remainder of 3 or 4 AU cents when divided by 5, the purchaser pays the extra 2 or 1 cent to make the price divisible by 5. It’s like having a ‘take a penny, leave a penny’ bin that never runs empty, and everyone must use. On average everyone ends up even.


37 posted on 05/08/2008 9:34:42 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David

The Swiss have no 1 and 5 cent pieces and ALL prices are rounded accordingly.

Pennies and nickels are stupid IMO.


38 posted on 05/08/2008 9:55:06 AM PDT by bicyclerepair (FT. LAUDERDALE FLORIDA ($3.61/gal.))
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To: 2001convSVT
Does this mean that the US of today is in the same dire straights the country was in, in 1943?

Well, gas prices are higher than they were during the much maligned Carter (early Reagan) malaise, so things certainly aren't peachy.

39 posted on 05/08/2008 9:58:58 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: mowowie

Illegal, but yes....


40 posted on 05/08/2008 10:08:52 AM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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