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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 11 May 2008
Various big media television networks ^ | 11 May 2008 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 05/11/2008 5:14:44 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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To: bray

Cuba doesn’t have to worry about oil spills or the environment, and they won’t, and Democrats will get no blame when that oil slick engulfs the Bahamas, Florida, and the Gulf of Mexico...


281 posted on 05/11/2008 9:46:05 AM PDT by Son House (God Enlightened me through Charles Gibson, the top Income Tax Rate Should be 15% too!)
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To: WOSG

Logically, you are right. I just keep having a nagging suspicion that Hillary will still find a way to win, and/or something else will happen to dethrone Obama.

As for Denver, those on the far left seem to be more interested in causing problems than selecting a candidate. They are not calling it “Recreate 68” for no reason.


282 posted on 05/11/2008 9:46:15 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriot.......)
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To: rodguy911

Who? McCain and Hillary? Or Obama

Obama reminds me of a sprouting weed in a bed of large ones! :-)

***If the entire story unfolds he will be toast,of course the DBM will do their best not to report it or spin it 180 degrees if it does come out.***


283 posted on 05/11/2008 9:47:55 AM PDT by msnpatriot
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To: Son House; bray

It has to do more with 30 years of incompetent Govt policy by the US Govt.

Supply and demand. The world demand for oil has gone up significantly, while the US is doing nothing to either increase it domestic supplies or control it appetite for oil.

Rather then scream the same stupid slogans about “Windfall Profit taxes” and “Investigating the Oil companies” we have been hearing since the 1970s, maybe we should try opening the vast oil production regions of the US we have put off limits and harnessing our own energy sources for a change?

In 1978 we heard all the same things we are hearing out of the Democrats now. “Windfall profit taxes, investigate the oil companies, conserve energy, increase the CAP standards” 30 years later the Democrats are saying the same things in 2008 they were saying in 1978.

The whole reason we created the Dept of Energy in 1978 was to purse these green dogmas. Well it 30 years and trillions of dollars in Govt spending later. Where are we from following the Democrat Party’s siren song on “an Environmentally Sound Energy Policy”?

The reason we are wholly dependent on the variances of the International Oil Market, instead of being one of the nations profiting by them, is because, for “environmental” reasons, we have spent the last 30 years as a matter of Govt policy, doing everything to restrict domestic energy production to in order to push silly “conservation” schemes To blame the speculators for speculating in an Oil market made so ultra profitable for them by stupid US Govt polices is to blame the cart for being pulled by the horse.

WE, the people of the USA via the agency of those idiots we elect and re-elect year after year after year, are to blame not speculators, not the market, not the Fed Reserve and dollar policy. US for not developing our own resources and instead allowing the usual suspects to sing the siren song that we could have all the “Eco green” Govt polices we felt like but would never have to pay any economic prices for those stupidities.


284 posted on 05/11/2008 9:48:18 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (http://www.iraqvetsforcongress.com ---- Get involved, make a difference.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Supply Side economics, as shown by Art Laffer and Milton Friedman

versus

Demand Side economics, used by Lord Maynard Keynes and Democrats since then. Good intentions fail to work but they keep on trying.


285 posted on 05/11/2008 9:51:58 AM PDT by Morgan in Denver (The "P" in Democrat stands for Patriot.......)
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To: rodguy911

Hey man, quit calling him Bama. It’s an insult to my state!


286 posted on 05/11/2008 9:53:58 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: bray

They have eliminated the cleanest, cheapest and most powerful power sources in the world

Dreamers, Democrats are dreaming some new technology is going to be cleaner and better, when know factual details about the toxic chemicals in Hybrid car batteries and florescent light bulbs tell quite different history.


287 posted on 05/11/2008 9:55:06 AM PDT by Son House (God Enlightened me through Charles Gibson, the top Income Tax Rate Should be 15% too!)
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To: bray

Even a Dim doesn’t want to be riding around in electric lawnmowers

The Elite Democrats won’t, just the Democrat supporters who are an after-thought post election.


288 posted on 05/11/2008 9:56:47 AM PDT by Son House (God Enlightened me through Charles Gibson, the top Income Tax Rate Should be 15% too!)
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To: csmusaret
I don’t think they would or wouldn’t qualify for re-entry. I think we need a process that screens applicants and has a reasonable waiting period; say 6 months. I also think that a tamper-proof work permit should be the ONLY acceptable employment document

As someone who has actually issued visas, I don't think you understand the process or the rules. We already have a process to screen applicants for work visas. Those numbers are limited and tightly defined. We don't allow everyone to enter this country who wants to work or even has a job offer. The visa itself is fairly tamper proof. The "problem" lies in the numbers allowed into the country. There are many more who want to come in than we can allow.

Once such a law was enacted ICE could start checking all employers to see if their workers were in compliance. After a few months of this the illegals would self deport.

We have things like the e-verify system. The problem is that employers like the inexhaustible supply of cheap, exploitable labor. We need to enforce our existing laws against employers who hire illegals. ICE is already making half-hearted attempts at checking, but they don't have the resources to really implement our laws. It would be helpful to have all state and local law enforcement officials with 287 [g] authority.

Need a guest worker program? Give these work permits an expiration date: say 3 years. After that workers have to go home and re-apply if they want to return.

Historically, guest workers don't go home. And do we really need all of these unskilled, uneducated workers when we have an 8.6% unemployment rate for blacks and 6.9% for Hispanics [April BLS statistics]? Let's start enforcing our existing laws. Attrition thru enforcement works.

289 posted on 05/11/2008 9:56:48 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Alas Babylon!

McCain is for McCain.

We know Clinton was for Clinton and McCain is from the same cloth.

We have three political clones running for same position.

Hillary talks tax cuts out of desperation, just like mccain gives lip service to border security.

This election will depend on conservatives on the LOCAL level.


290 posted on 05/11/2008 9:57:49 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Steely Tom

I think I did it! I moved the arrow on Screen Resolution all the way to the right and it seems back to normal. My nerves! Thanks, everyone, for your patience and support. Now...I have to catch up with the entire thread.


291 posted on 05/11/2008 9:59:17 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: kabar

I see. You don’t think we need tamper-proof documents. You don’t think illegals would self deport if they couldn’t finf work.


292 posted on 05/11/2008 9:59:33 AM PDT by csmusaret (John McCain is the evil of three lessers)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I just did that, Alas, and it worked! Thanks again. ;)


293 posted on 05/11/2008 10:00:30 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: All

Has everyone seen the BS about putting the polar bear on the endangered list?

This is about ecconomics it has nothing to do with protecting the bear.

Just as the spotted owl was used to create ecconomic havoc, this will be used to create artificial migration “grounds”.

Given the recent domestic wusification of GWBush, he will sign it.

Also notice how the DBM is ASSUMING THE CANDIDATES HAVE to “go green” (green=socialist)


294 posted on 05/11/2008 10:06:10 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Son House

Even when they come up with a Butterfly Wings form of energy they protest. T

hey can’t use windmill energy in Boston since it is too “unsightly”. The Kennedy’s stopped that one. Thank you Congress for this Crisis.

Pray for W and Our Troops


295 posted on 05/11/2008 10:10:58 AM PDT by bray (If everyone hates you, you must be doin something right?)
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To: Son House

No worries, I fixed it. ;) Thank goodness, because I had no idea what your suggestion required and it scared the heck out of me.


296 posted on 05/11/2008 10:11:49 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: Son House

The Elitists are noticing the cost of fuel in their Gulfstreams. When they have to put $50-80K in their tanks to fly to Caans, even they will begin to notice. Even SoddomWood will start wanting drilling in Alaska.

Pray for W and Our Troops


297 posted on 05/11/2008 10:14:23 AM PDT by bray (If everyone hates you, you must be doin something right?)
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To: longtermmemmory

Just had a bunch of ill informed folks supporting Obama as the green candidate because he will protect the polar bears, obviously, like Obama, they aren’t worried about who will protect the humans.


298 posted on 05/11/2008 10:14:56 AM PDT by Son House (God Enlightened me through Charles Gibson, the top Income Tax Rate Should be 15% too!)
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To: Miss Didi

Great. I posted to you on my way out the door to church, and in my haste told you the opposite of what I meant.


299 posted on 05/11/2008 10:21:14 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Son House

Wouldn’t an environmental Purist commit suicide for Ma Earth?

Pray for W and Our Troops


300 posted on 05/11/2008 10:24:14 AM PDT by bray (If everyone hates you, you must be doin something right?)
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