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McCain offers a bold, pro-market agenda for America (including the Flat Tax!)
The Manchester Union Leader ^ | May 27, 2008 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 05/26/2008 11:54:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: cyberella

Thanks for the post. I have cast my last vote for one person because the another person is worse.

Provide me a man worth voting for, or continue on without my vote.


41 posted on 05/27/2008 1:27:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (If you continue to hold your nose and vote, your nation will stink worse after every election.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; ancient_geezer; Taxman; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; ...
Most significantly, he would let Americans choose to file taxes under today's rules or volunteer for a simpler, flatter rate, perhaps at 25 or 15 percent.

A flat tax on income is another scam by McCain. He doesn't want people to know a flat tax on income has been tried in the U.S. and was an abysmal failure. The first tax ranged from 1% on the first $20,000 of taxable income and was only 7% on incomes above $500,000. People paid only the 1% rate since so few earned more than $500,000 when the income tax was enacted in 1913. At the time less than 5% of the population was covered under the income tax. Today more than 80% of Americans are covered by the income tax. McCain's farce of a flat tax will only evolve back into another multi tiered, incomprehensible, oppressive tax code we have today only it will happen faster thanks to the thousands of lobbyists that didn't exist in 1913.

McCain's dog and pony show is mere tinkering with a tax code that is beyond repair. It needs to be replaced with a consumption tax via The Fair Tax Act of 2007. McCain will eventually have to change his position on a flat tax on income as the Fair Tacx grassroots momentum continues to grow. Fair Tax ping!


42 posted on 05/27/2008 4:37:56 PM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: DoughtyOne
John, when hell freezes over, my vote will still be clutched in my hands so tight you’ll have to take a chain saw to get it out

Right - clinton and obama will be so much better.....

no shortage of ignorance

43 posted on 05/27/2008 4:50:05 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: maine-iac7
Is your calling me names just another McCain attempt to get my vote?

Tell you what, I'd rather be ignorant and hold my vote back from McCain, than be the brightest guy around and not know why to.
44 posted on 05/27/2008 4:54:41 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Votes to Pass Leftist Policy: McCain Senators 90, House 375 – Obama Senators 58, House 275.)
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To: Shery
We can believe he'll go after the pork-barrelers - he has NEVER put in for ONE pork barrel pot.

I wonder if there's anyone else in DC with THAT record. If he stops them cold, a lot more bills will pass quicker as they won't be stuffed with pork that has nothing to do with the bill.... That could also get rid of some dimRats, in their home states, who have been buying their votes for decades with pork...

45 posted on 05/27/2008 4:56:16 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore
All anybody has to do is see what McCain has done already during his entire duration as a U.S. Senator

He says he'll kill the pork barrels - and 'during his entire duration as a U.S. Senator" = he has NEVER put in a pork barrel grab. Not once. So his words are not empty. How many other senators can you name with that record?

46 posted on 05/27/2008 4:59:41 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: kindred
If Bob Barr is on the ticket, then he is a good vote.

A vote for Barr is the same as a vote fo clinton or obama - did anyone not learn anything from the Ross Perot debachle that made bubba president - with only 47% of the vote?

47 posted on 05/27/2008 5:02:33 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s a comment: I waste enough time doing my taxes already. I have no interest in doing them twice. If this is the best McCain can come up with, we’re in trouble.


48 posted on 05/27/2008 5:20:24 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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To: maine-iac7

Senator Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, who would truly make a fine VP choice for McCain, but I would truly prefer it if Coburn was running for POTUS instead.


49 posted on 05/27/2008 5:23:24 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (Vote for conservatives AT ALL POLITICAL LEVELS! Encourage all others to do the same on November 4!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

I also think John Thune would be an excellent pick

http://thune.senate.gov/public/

http://www.johnthune.com/index.php?content=comm04


50 posted on 05/27/2008 5:50:52 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t like this:

“double the dependents’ exemption from $3,500 to $7,000”

That is just more shifting of tax burdens away from lower incomes and onto higher incomes. Anything that exempts any part of income — with the possible exception of SS income — is a bad idea. It enlarges the pool of voters that pay virtually nothing in taxes because their income all got “exempted” away. That is not my idea of a “Flat Tax”.

To me, a “Flat Tax” is one that has no exemptions, no deductions, and no social engineering favoritism to anybody. Do that, and you can have a single Flat Income Tax rate of 10%. Leave SS and Medicare to fund themselves from the 7.65% existing mandatory contribution scheme.


51 posted on 05/27/2008 6:00:17 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (I used to be Dilbert. Then I was Wally. I retired before I became the Pointy Haired One.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

On the fiscal side McCain is head and shoulders above the Democrats. So, he has national defense and fiscal restraint going for him where the others have nothing.


52 posted on 05/27/2008 7:35:20 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Man50D

scam? Come on, you are discrediting yourself. The lower flat tax will be an improvement and a big cut in taxes for alot of people. Not as good as the fairtax, but at least give him credit for movement in the right direction.


53 posted on 05/27/2008 10:48:10 PM PDT by fabian
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To: DManA
So now you have to do your taxes twice to see wich way costs less. Great.

Make that three times. Under the present scheme you have to check to see if you come under that Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT).

Tinker, tinker, tinker.

54 posted on 05/27/2008 11:37:43 PM PDT by foxfield
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To: fabian
The lower flat tax will be an improvement and a big cut in taxes for alot of people.

As I explained in my previous post a flat tax on income has been a failure since it has morphed into the income tax code we know and hate today. The same will eventually happen with McCain's scam. You are ignoring history. Those who ignore history are condemned to repeat it.

This ignores another obvious point. The Fair is also a flat tax but on consumption instead of income.
55 posted on 05/28/2008 3:39:29 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Most significantly, he would let Americans choose to file taxes under today’s rules or volunteer for a simpler, flatter rate, perhaps at 25 or 15 percent.”

I’m not sure which flat tax option he favors, but none of them, to my knowledge, are revenue neutral. How does he plan to get a tax reform proposal through congress which is not revenue neutral?


56 posted on 05/28/2008 5:06:40 AM PDT by phil_will1 (My posts are in no way limited or restricted by previously expressed SQL opinions)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Most significantly, he would let Americans choose to file taxes under today's rules or volunteer for a simpler, flatter rate, perhaps at 25 or 15 percent.

Oh no!! 10,000 more pages of federal code...............

57 posted on 05/28/2008 6:08:22 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: DoughtyOne
John, when hell freezes over, my vote will still be clutched in my hands so tight you’ll have to take a chain saw to get it out.

Mine either. Hell, I quit the republican party. Got a letter from the RNC recently asking for more money. The first line in the letter asked me if I had given up.

Talk about audacity. Those spineless bastards asking me if I'd given up when they've been rolling over on every issue for the last two years and then nominate the head RINO for their presidential candidate.

I'm an independent now and will vote for a real conservative if one runs and if not I'm writing in my choice.

58 posted on 05/28/2008 6:20:14 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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To: cowboyway

I’ve gone the Independent route too. I wanted to send a message. If their registered voter numbers went down, I hoped it would knock some sense into them. No such luck.

They’ll go down with the lefty ship, rather than listen to us.

It’s pretty clear they aren’t going to honor our founding principles any longer. Why vote for that?

You take care.


59 posted on 05/28/2008 6:27:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Votes to Pass Leftist Policy: McCain Senators 90, House 375 / Obama Senators 58, House 275.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Quix; Joya

Thanks, 2ndDV.

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Ping to read.


60 posted on 05/28/2008 8:16:44 AM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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