Obama Talks of Family's Military Service (Family liberated Auschwitz...Yeahhhhh)

Cbs News ^ | May 26, 2008 | Maria Gavrilovic

[Lumper20]

You have me ROFLMAO.

[Roccus]

Now the Obama campaign is saying that it was one of the camps at Buchenwald and that it was his grandmother’s brother.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obamas_World_War_II_history.html#comments

[Philo-Junius]

The Obama campaign says it was indeed Payne in the 89th ID:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obamas_World_War_II_history.html

[GoldenPup]

Don't usually answer myself, but I guess this would be an opportune time to say, "I told you so". Yep, more politician's Bullsh!t, it turns out a few hours later. Of course, NOW the story has changed.

Yeah?? Right?? Sure?? No...more Bullsh!t, as usual !!!

[Enchante]

Well it now appears it may simply Obama who doesn’t know enough or doesn’t care to be able to relate the story accurately.

CNN story refers to statement from Obama camp that says it was a great-uncle serving in the 89th Infantry Division, liberating one of the sub-camps at Buchenwald. That does seem to be borne out in the division history, IF the Obama campaign is now accurate about the great-uncle and IF said great-uncle was actually there:

http://www.89infdivww2.org/ohrdruf/ohrdrufintro.htm

Be prepared for the push-back as the Demagogues and the MSM scream “how could you dare to question the heroic tale of a liberator of Buchenwald?”

The real question should be

“HOW COULD OBAMA BE SO CARELESS AND INACCURATE ABOUT EVENTS OF SUCH ENORMOUS MORAL AND HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE?”

He has botched this story in both 2002 and 2008, that we know about. At the very least it is fair to say he knows nothing about the history of the liberation of Europe in 1945.

[Taffini]

my cracker uncle was in europe and fought under patton...maybe his cracker uncle knew my cracker uncle

[21twelve]

“At the very least it is fair to say he knows nothing about the history of the liberation of Europe in 1945.”

Or the history of his family. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if his campaign folks find stuff like this and give it to Obama on the plane ride to the next speech. (”Oh wait - TOMMORROW is Memorial Day? Quick, find something in his family’s history about WAR”.)

Would account for the uncle vs. great uncle. Aushwitz (famous) vs. Buchenwald (not quite so famous), etc. Sort of like giving the answers on a pop-quiz.

[kidd]

I hear he has another uncle who fought the Germans when they bombed Pearl Harbor

[Philo-Junius]

As someone else said on a related thread, at this point we very well might wonder if in fact the Payne family home even had an attic.

[EDINVA]

Amazingly, a Dem Dingbat on Fox earlier claimed this speech wasn’t given to burnish his national security or foreign relations credentials. He’s going to win on the economy alone! (where do they find these people?)

[Grampa Dave]

It is fun and the natural order of things to laugh at this clown.

[keepitreal]

According to Ancestry.com Obama’s missing gramma had one brother Charles W. Payne, born about 1924. No record of a Charles W. Payne enlisting or being inducted in Kansas during WWII. Unless he left Kansas at 18 or so.

http://www.kshs.org/genealogists/military/wwiiveteransresults.php?page=1036&branch=A

Just call me a bit skeptical. Once a fibber, always a fibber.

[freema]

Brings this to mind:
Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to loose
Nothing, and that’s all that Bobby left me, yeah
But feeling good was easy Lord when he sang the blues
Hey feeling good was good enough for me, hmm-mm
Good enough for me and Bobby McGee.

[Lumper20]

One has to laugh at this fool, as he pulls relatives from wood piles that make no sense to anyone with an ounce of common sense.

[Jet Jaguar]

LOL. 6 Months in an attic.

Man, talk about political convenience.
He comes up with this story while talking about PTSD.

[Jet Jaguar]

It was an attic before it was a basement.

[Mogollon]

On January 27, 1945, the Soviet army entered Auschwitz and liberated more than 7,000 remaining prisoners, who were mostly ill and dying.

Americans did not liberate Auschwitz. Buchenwald we liberated.

[AnAmericanMother]

My dad was born in 1924, and he was one of the youngest guys in his unit in N. Africa and Italy. Went in in 1942, got out in 46 or 47, not sure which. So Charles Payne was of an age to serve, especially if he enlisted late in the war.

If he was Section 8'd and living in the attic, there ought to be some record of it somewhere. I'm sure gramma (if she can hear from under the bus there) is going to be real proud of her grandson for throwing her poor brother under the bus too.

[Philo-Junius]

I wouldn’t hang the whole story on account of an incorrect initial, since there are other Charles Paynes listed from Kansas, but I think the whole “the only good veteran is a traumatised veteran” trope the Democrats are attempting is shameful.

If Obama wants to inject his family history as evidence, we ought to be able to examine the record.

[i_dont_chat]

Probably Obama’s ancestor is Chester W. Payne:

Payne, Chester L. Inducted 31 January 1945, Army 37760745 Registered, order # 12622-A Wichita, Sedgwick Co. (Board # 3)

Sedgwick County is where Obama’s grandfather lived, according to Ancestry.com.

First Draft of Ancestry of Obama:
http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

His grandfather:
Stanley Armour Dunham, salesman, born Kansas, 23 March 1918, d. Honolulu, Hawaii, 8 Feb. 1992 [SSDI 514-03-4824], bur. Punchbowl National Cemetery, Honolulu, Hawaii
marr. 5 May 1940

Here is the WWI Draft Registration of Obama’s grandfather:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=wwiienlist&h=4719327&ti=0&indiv=try

BTW, my husband is related to Obama, through the Allred line from Overton County TN.