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When Congress Commits Treason
Family Security Matters ^ | February 4, 2007 | Raymond S. Kraft

Posted on 06/07/2008 4:11:05 PM PDT by mdittmar

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To: Doe Eyes

Either you can’t read or you’re a plant.


41 posted on 06/07/2008 8:05:58 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: mdittmar
Thirty-two years ago, in 1975, after America and the Republic of Vietnam had fought and won a ten-year war to save South Vietnam from the predations of the communist north, a Democrat Congress voted to terminate life support for South Vietnam in the face of another North Vietnamese invasion, backed by the USSR. A Democrat Congress voted to "pull the plug," and condemned millions of Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Laotions to death, torture, imprisonment, and re-education camps, and condemned others to flee their homes and countries as refugees. That, in my view, was the blackest day in American history, and the blood of those people is on the hands of the Democrats who voted to abandon them.

The Colonel in charge of my AF reserve training detachment, back in the 80s called the DemonRats, "The Party of Treason". When not in uniform that is, I worked for the same company and on two occasions, in the same building as he did, and would often stop by his office for a chat, usually at the end of lunch hour.

Events since then have shown him to be correct, perhaps even more than he would ever have imagined. (He's no longer with us, being interned in the DFW National Cemetery, where he went out with full military honors, just wish I could have been there.) The difference is he had known it since *before* he served in the Southeast Asia War Games, where due to DemonRat political meddling with the full support of the Lame Stream Media, we took SECOND place. (He would always chuckle when he reflected on the fact that while he made O-6, Full Bull Colonel, the guy who wrote the bad OER on him that got him RIFed from active duty only made Light Colonel and failed selection to 0-6, thus getting outed rather than upped. :)

42 posted on 06/07/2008 8:16:10 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: mdittmar
making clear and conspicuous progress toward a good outcome

There has been the whole time...just not reported that way by the 90%+ democrat-registered and monetarily supporting members of the MSM. There is more than one head to the treason dragon. Another group is the tv-addled fools who slurp up the MSM BS like ambrosia because facing reality is too anxiety inspiring...and they are the ones who elected this Congress.

43 posted on 06/07/2008 8:19:05 PM PDT by eldoradude (Let's water the tree of liberty with THEIR blood...)
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To: Maelstorm
This hits the nail on the head. Republicans would gain more traction if they quit playing nice about this.

The Republican presumptive nominee knows how to not play nice...with other Republicans. But when it comes to his "friends across the aisle", he only seems to know how to play nice.

44 posted on 06/07/2008 8:21:50 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: ExTexasRedhead; Doe Eyes; freekitty
The current Congress... is one that cares more about the acquisition of power, their personal greed, and to feed their egos.

They are a Congress of professional politicians. A lot of folks (here on FR too) are perfectly happy with professional politicians.

I think that is the problem. When you have campaigns spending tens of millions of dollars to win a job paying less than 200 grand a year, that only a so-called professional politician can vie for, we have lost our way.

45 posted on 06/07/2008 8:40:39 PM PDT by eldoradude (Let's water the tree of liberty with THEIR blood...)
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To: eldoradude

I agree except the part about Freepers being satisfied with them being professional politicians. I don’t believe that is the case at all.


46 posted on 06/07/2008 9:01:32 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: eldoradude

Unless you are talking about agitators or plants or just plain nasty people.


47 posted on 06/07/2008 9:02:56 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: freekitty
I agree except the part about Freepers being satisfied with them being professional politicians. I don’t believe that is the case at all.

I wish it wasn't the case, but I see that it is, particularly in threads about the recent 4th congressional district election last week in California. Local politicians dropped out in favor of the big monied professionals, Tom McClintock and Doug Ose. Both moved in from other districts to run, Ose from the 3rd district supported by Pete Wilson and Arnold Schwarzengroper and McClintock a termed out conservative from 400 miles away in southern California.

Both of them professional politicians. Ose is a RINO and lost fortunately, and I voted for McClintock. I am not happy about that choice, I would have preferred someone who actually has lived in the district and understands it. Not to the point of voting for the traitor democrat though.

My point is a lot of Freepers were delighted that McClintock was running, even bragging that they had contacted him, begging him to run. He is a good conservative, up to the point where he misunderstood why folks like term limits. He has had his run and needs to go home. So yes, a lot of Freepers are indeed satisfied with professional politicians in my opinion.

48 posted on 06/07/2008 9:20:29 PM PDT by eldoradude (Let's water the tree of liberty with THEIR blood...)
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To: freekitty

I wasn’t refdering to all Freepers anyway, I said ‘A lot of folks (here on FR too)’. Certainly not you my FRiend.


49 posted on 06/07/2008 9:24:05 PM PDT by eldoradude (Let's water the tree of liberty with THEIR blood...)
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To: eldoradude

Misquote. Sorry.


50 posted on 06/07/2008 9:34:01 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: yarddog

If treason was prosecuted, the Dem Party leadership would be all serving long sentences.

But as is, even illegal immigration is prosecuted (ha!) far more vigorously than domestic treason.

Thus the reason the extremist left (now the Dem Party), is winning. They are being allowed to commit treason without prosection.


51 posted on 06/07/2008 11:13:32 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Vote Dem: vote the Clinton/Obama/McCain ticket)
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To: yarddog

If treason was prosecuted, the Dem Party leadership would be all serving long sentences.

But as is, even illegal immigration is prosecuted (ha!) far more vigorously than domestic treason.

Thus the reason the extremist left (now the Dem Party), is winning. They are being allowed to commit treason without prosection.


52 posted on 06/07/2008 11:13:32 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Vote Dem: vote the Clinton/Obama/McCain ticket)
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To: mdittmar
Unfortunately our nation is filled with treasonous haters of America.

The majority of those in Congress work overtime to defeat our constitution and to bring disgrace and dishonor to us all. They are idiots useful to communism.

The only way to defeat them is to turn the central government on its ear.

53 posted on 06/08/2008 4:16:43 AM PDT by CWWren (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress....but I repeat myself.)
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To: CWWren

They proved your point just recently when they tried to vote in their Environ-MENTAL plan for a 53 cent increase on the gas tax. According to them, this would have brought the price down dramatically. And were angry with Conservatives because they stopped the bill and there fore do not care about the poor people, the economy or the Environment.

The very definition of insanity.


54 posted on 06/08/2008 4:47:57 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Juan McCain....The lesser of Three Liberals.")
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55 posted on 06/08/2008 6:42:54 AM PDT by evad (.I.)
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To: Maelstorm

Read ‘Unholy Alliance’.


56 posted on 06/08/2008 6:50:57 AM PDT by patriot08
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To: Kathy in Alaska; txradioguy; Diva Betsy Ross; beachn4fun; StarCMC; Lady Jag; laurenmarlowe; ...

Treason ping


57 posted on 06/08/2008 8:47:48 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Typical white person, bitter, religious, gun owner, who will "Just say No to BO in Nov.")
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58 posted on 06/08/2008 12:53:11 PM PDT by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: El Gato

That is a problem but I think but part of that is media perception magnifying of conflict among conservations and Republicans. Part of McCain’s popularity has been his high profile criticism of his own and his opportunistic use of leftist rhetoric on occasion. That said McCain has been very hard on the left. What often happens is that we remember when we are in disagreement more than when we are in agreement. Marriages fall apart because of the phrases “You always...” “You never...”. Is McCain never a conservative because he has proposed some things that are not? The immigration reform bill which I did not support was supported by G.W. Bush and a slew of other conservatives many with unquestionable credentials. I don’t necessarily call them liberals for it, naive is a better word but then again conservatives have a tendency to be duped by the left.

Take for example the speech below where McCain skewers the Democrats:

“McCain — who received a hearty round of applause by declaring he would rather lose the presidential campaign than jeopardize the war effort in Iraq — also took a swipe at Democratic Sens. Barack Obama (Ill.) and Hillary Clinton (N.Y.), saying they were pushing for a hasty withdrawal: “Democrats have time and time again raised the flag of surrender. We’ve been able to beat that back.”

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/24/mccain_has_tough_words_for_dem.html

I think the McCain campaign would benefit by running ads in very red states highlighting his disagreements with the left. He really skewered Michael Moore at the 2004 convention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5WoGto3BWI&eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=McCain+Michael+moore.&hl=en&sitesearch=

The difference with McCain is that he does speak his mind whether it is in agreement or not. That may be a flaw but independence is something I can live with. It is what makes us different from the left, we are not afraid of people speaking their mind in ways that are contrary to what we believe. We may disagree and work politically for our enemies dissolution but where we excel is when our arguments are laid out in the public square. We stopped the naive immigration reform bill. The question is whether we want someone who we can stop politically in the event they stray like with McCain or if we want someone like Obama who will push the most far left policies no matter what we say.


59 posted on 06/08/2008 1:07:10 PM PDT by Maelstorm (Bureaucracy is a disease masquerading as a cure.)
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To: mdittmar
If many of us did that, reposting repeatedly the same article that we found especially good, that would do more harm than good to this site, as people had to wade through the reposts to find the new.

This "treason" article is good, but it's not so special as to be the exception that should be repeatedly posted.

60 posted on 06/08/2008 3:04:21 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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