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Was the Holocaust Inevitable? ( Patrick J. Buchanan )
townhall.com ^ | June 20, 2008 | Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted on 06/20/2008 8:12:50 AM PDT by kellynla

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To: wideawake

The one thing Pat has right is that Hitler secretly admired the British who he regarded as a Germanic people. He was supposedly reluctant to go to war with them. It was the Russians he hated as an inferior race: ‘Slavs’.


21 posted on 06/20/2008 8:24:19 AM PDT by Borges
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To: dirtboy

The nutroots have excepted that we were right about Hillary. Maybe it’s time we accepted that they were right about Pat. Maybe he has been a nazi all along.


22 posted on 06/20/2008 8:25:27 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, educate, then opinionate.)
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To: wideawake

Bullseye.


23 posted on 06/20/2008 8:25:40 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: kellynla
And why did Hitler invade Russia? This writer quotes Hitler 10 times as saying that only by knocking out Russia could he convince Britain it could not win and must end the war.

???Huh?.What about Mein Kampf?... Buchanan is an out and out crank, no doubt about it.

24 posted on 06/20/2008 8:26:05 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: kellynla

I felt better when Pat was over on MSNBC where he pretty much had the same position on Iraq as the lesbian cow Rachel Maddow. I saw Pat on Hannity and Colmes the other night as evidently he has started appear on Fox. Hannity was slobbering all over Pat in such a way, that for a moment I thought Julie Annie had returned from the anonymity of the Republican Party Witness Protection Program.


25 posted on 06/20/2008 8:26:28 AM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Soliton
Maybe it’s time we accepted that they were right about Pat. Maybe he has been a nazi all along.

I was thinking the same myself.

26 posted on 06/20/2008 8:26:53 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: kellynla

Wow Pat, by your logic WW I wasn’t necessary either. Matter of fact, the American civil war could have been avoided all together if General Lee and Grant had just sat down to tea.


27 posted on 06/20/2008 8:26:56 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: jpl
I also believe that occasionally things happen in the world that are a lot more important than maintaining an empire. They were absolutely correct in opposing Hitler's mad quest for continental domination when most countries wanted no part of another war.

I hope we learn enough from history to be able to defeat islam, and not lose our own country or its place in the world.

But ya know what? All countries eventually die. We've lived a worthy life, if we must die, better to die a worthy death.

28 posted on 06/20/2008 8:28:00 AM PDT by null and void (every Muslim, the minute he can start differentiating, carries hate of Americans, Jews & Christians)
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To: kellynla
If Hitler were out to conquer the world, why did he not build a great fleet? Why did he not demand the French fleet when France surrendered?

Because the Royal Navy sank it in harbour. Seriously, does Pat not know this?

29 posted on 06/20/2008 8:28:05 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: dirtboy

“The Holocaust was not a cause of the war, but a consequence of the war. No war, no Holocaust.”

I’ve read the Mein Kampf. Hitler always intended to exterminate the Jewish people.

Pat has ceased to be relevant.


30 posted on 06/20/2008 8:28:20 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: kellynla
Not until midwinter 1942 was the Wannsee Conference held, where the Final Solution was on the table.

In September 1935, on the occasion of the passing of the first of the Nuremberg laws, Hitler gave a speech.

In the speech he said that if Germany's "Jewish problem" could not be solved by these new laws, then the matter needed to be delegated to the Nazi Party itself so that the Party could engineer an "Endloesung" - a final solution.

The Final Solution was thus publicly on the table almost seven years before the Wannsee Conference.

31 posted on 06/20/2008 8:28:26 AM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: dirtboy
Pat's an anti-Jew. There's no question of that.

I bet he does a fist pump each time a bomb goes off in Israel.

32 posted on 06/20/2008 8:29:20 AM PDT by stravinskyrules (Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos?)
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To: Nonstatist
Gee - I never really understood that the Holocaust was actually Winston Churchill's fault.

Now, it all makes sense!

Whatever...
33 posted on 06/20/2008 8:30:20 AM PDT by Frobenius
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To: kellynla
Britain went to war with Germany to save Poland. She did not save Poland.

Gee.
How stupid of those Brits.
Hitler just wanted a little room, after all.
So it was Britain that ignited the Holocaust.
Silly me. How could I have thought otherwise?

34 posted on 06/20/2008 8:31:14 AM PDT by XR7
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Pat rewrites history again. Britain didn’t lose her empire because of the world war

It was certainly a driving factor. Britain was devastated and the population wanted nothing to do with foreign adventures. They lost India and then had no reason to bear the expense of maintaining standing armies in Palestine and Egypt to defend the road to India through the Suez canal. They pulled out, Israel was born.The idea that there wouldn't have been a Holocaust is ridiculous though. Hitler's justification for war was lebensraum. He wanted space for a Greater Germany. It always included genocide as a method to that end.

35 posted on 06/20/2008 8:31:48 AM PDT by Soliton (Investigate, educate, then opinionate.)
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To: Nachum

It certainly would have been over much sooner if only R.E. Lee had taken Lincoln’s offer. There wouldn’t be an Arlington National Cemetery today. At least not in the place where it is.


36 posted on 06/20/2008 8:32:30 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“Pat rewrites history again. Britain didn’t lose her empire because of the world war.”

Well, actually, she did. Britain went bankrupt during WW II... they spent the entire treasury on the war effort, including lend-lease. You simply can’t hold an empire together when you can’t even protect your capital from getting bombed.

But.... the war simply hastened an inevitable process, I think. Even if WW II had never happened, Britain’s territories were already moving for independence. Before Hitler became a threat, Churchill was most famous for ranting about the threat of India breaking away from the Empire in Parliament.

WW 1 made the end of the Empire inevitable, because that’s the war that spawned all the major national independence movements. Even without WW II, the British Empire, at best, would have slowly died away. WW II just accelerated the process.


37 posted on 06/20/2008 8:32:30 AM PDT by DesScorp
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To: kellynla
LOL!! The title alone gave me a good long belly laugh.


38 posted on 06/20/2008 8:33:03 AM PDT by Huck (The Teddy Roosevelt wannabe is better than Karl Marx wannabe.)
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To: Biblebelter

Pat is being used by the MSM to keep Jews on the Democratic plantation.

I am a staunch conservative, but the fact that this Nazi sympathiser had ANY position in ANY Republican administration and managed to win a few primaries gives me pause about some of my fellow conservative travelers.

I get over it, knowing Pat represents an odd fringe element, but ONLY because I am well informed.

To the average TV-watching news person, this guy makes Republicans look like Nazis.

We need to speak out AGAINST him being the token “conservative” in ANY broadcast.


39 posted on 06/20/2008 8:33:39 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: kellynla

Patrich Buchanan Chamberland


40 posted on 06/20/2008 8:33:53 AM PDT by GulfBreeze (Vote for John McCain along with Tom DeLay, John Cornyn and the majority of conservatives.)
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