Posted on 08/02/2008 11:33:27 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
That’s the letter of the law, but they weren’t “returning” from anywhere. The session was called. I’m not a lawyer, but I’m sure some of them are or were talking to theirs.
The Dems have pushed it before. Personally, I want the Fierce 50 back fighting on Monday.
This isn’t Hollywood. The good guys don’t always win.
I wouldn’t have stayed.
This is why they left....Republicans obey the law
“This was the irony. Republicans were stirring up all sorts of trouble inside the chamber. But no one could see it. That is except for the aides and the tourists watching the show from the gallery. I later put the same question to Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN). He told me that lawmakers had to obey the rules.”
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When I called Rep. Jon Porter (R-NV 3), his staffers even at his local offices were bragging about the fact that he was there on the floor and had given a speech during the blackout. They were hyped. And this despite ‘local polls’ which show him trailing some Pelosi-clone witch with bigger name ID for re-election in November.
The Nevada Third Congressional District has a 10,000 voter advantage to the Democrats and contains most of the hispanics in Las Vegas. It covers Henderson and other suburbs of the City of Las Vegas. Porter has won it each time since the District was created in 2002. He is now being opposed by Dina Titus who is:
1. Ugly
2. Sounds like she is from Alabama (no offense, but it sounds bizarre here in Las Vegas from a person who has lived here for 40 years supposedly)
3. Term-limited out as a State Senator and former Dem Senate Leader (minority party).
4. State University Professor in Political Science (so, yes, she is getting two paychecks from the taxpayers of Nevada and in her elected job she gives herself raises in her day job) (In Nevada, the Legislature only gets to work 140 days every other year. Otherwise, they need to find real jobs to make a living. Virtually every Democrat is a public employee of some kind in their ‘day job’)
5. She unsuccessfully ran for Governor in 2006 so this is the next most important office she thought she could get into. She is running for Congress simply because she wants another paycheck from the government.
6. She has favored every tax hike every proposed in Nevada and was part of a cabal 3 years ago in which the State Supreme Court over-ruled the Nevada Constitution and ordered the Legislature to raise taxes without getting a voter approval or getting the required 2/3rd voter majority. The Supreme Court decided that ‘funding the schools’ was more important than upholding the Constitutional provision requiring a 2/3rd voter approval of any take hikes.
Dina Titus was the Plaintiff before the Supreme Court trying to get the Justices to Order GOP Senators to vote for a $1.05B tax increase to ‘pay for education’. This historic atrocity has already resulted in the outster/retirement of 2 of the Nevada Supreme Court Justices and in the August primary the 3rd will be removed. Dina Titus doesn’t believe the Court was wrong.
7. Dina Titus has Harry Reids machine behind her and has personal approval to run for this one contested Congressional Seat in Nevada.
Dina Titus has Harry Reids approval. End of Story.
If any of you are in the greater Las Vegas area, send Jon Porter some money or call him office and volunteer to help. I’ve known Jon since he was just an insurance agent and before Congress and he has always been a Conservative voice almost without exception. He is one of the Seats which Nancy Pelosi believes will be in her control after Nov 5th because of the Obamagasm you see on TV.
I later put the same question to Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN). He told me that lawmakers had to obey the rules.”
The whole question is what are the constitutionally mandated "rules" that a lawmaker must obey? Has Mike Pence never heard of civil disobedience? Is that tool to be left to only one side of the political spectrum? If lawmakers are standing in the chamber demanding a debate, committing no violence, just what "rule" or "law" is constitutionally enforceable against them In the face of article 1 section 6 which I just quoted to you?
God help any speaker of the House who would arrest such lawmakers.
That’s the letter of the law, but they weren’t “returning” from anywhere. The session was called. I’m not a lawyer, but I’m sure some of them are or were talking to theirs.
Of course they were "returning", how the hell else do you go home from the capital? They were either "in session" or "returning". That is not "the letter of the law" that is the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA for God's sake. That's the piece of paper that we conservatives are all about.
They would have stood there emoting until hell froze over had they left the cameras on. "Obeying the rules" my ass.
Calm down.
police would have arrested them for loitering. Not a single rep had any business on that floor, the session was closed and therefore the laws that protected them were closed too
When you posted that you did not have the slightest knowledge whether the police would've arrested anybody. You did not know what the legal definition of "closed" is. You have no idea of the legal significance of that term, if any. You did not know whether the laws protecting the representatives "were closed." In fact, your use of the concept is entirely contrived.
You were utterly ignorant of the applicable provisions of the United States Constitution.
When someone gently points out to you the existence of the Constitution, and quotes it for you, you recycle your old arguments and persist in grand and sweeping assumptions that the lawmakers were not, "returning" when is at the least a matter of constitutional interpretation. No one knows how the courts would come down on this issue-or even if the courts would entertain the issue. Under these circumstances, a certain amount of humility is appropriate.
Now you resort to condescension; " Calm down.
I will calm down when you stop parading ignorance as gospel. This is a forum in which one should hold dear respect for the facts.
That’s the Republicans. They never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
I called my LOCAL tv station and asked them to cover this, and will e-mail another LOCAL tv station.
If the national news won’t cover it, maybe we can get LOCAL tv stations to cover the fight against Dictator Pelosi, and LOCAL tv stations in the cold-weather states should especially join in the fight to drill. Our heating bill in the cold-weather states is going to be thousands and thousands of dollars, as well as the gas prices.
If it was the Rats, they would play for keeps. So I'll give them that.
Trueblackman was THERE and stating that the hill police had instructions from above. So were the offices that people were speaking to.
You are getting very heated for a simple discussion. You're not engaging me in that kind of debate. Keep your insults to a minimum and you will get farther.
Look, you commenced the insults with: " calm down" . I have not tried to engage you in a debate on anything other than the issues.
And you just compounded the sin for it is you who once again resorted to this sort of condescension with this remark, "keep your insults to a minimum and you will get farther."
I have not insulted you but I have quite properly criticized your cavalier assertions such as sessions being "closed" and the legal significance, if any, of that word which you have coined for this purpose. I did object to your cavalierly dismissing the constitutional protection to representatives who are returning to their homes. My criticism of your position is not an insult but it is good honest debate. I did not start out being harsh with you, indeed, as I said before, I "gently" provided you with the text of article 1 section 6 of the Constitution. It is you who has airily dismissed it and one can only surmise motives for your attitude.
By the way, if you have a look at my posts I think you will see that I have quite consciously refrained from personal invective. But do not confuse a distaste for the ad hominem with a timidity in speaking the truth as I believe it to be and do not confuse admonishments with "insults."
Finally, I do not believe that confronting someone with the Constitution of the United States of America is to insult them.
As the protest grew and media coverage expanded, Pelosi made a huge mistake in ordering Capitol Hill police to evict the Republicans from the building.November 2008 -- Be there!
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