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Police Turn to Secret Weapon: GPS Device
WP ^ | August 13, 2008 | Ben Hubbard

Posted on 08/14/2008 1:29:55 AM PDT by Schnucki

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To: TheMole; All

Open question: If I find a unwanted object(device)on my vehicle that might be a GPS bug,can I remove it?


21 posted on 08/14/2008 8:36:35 AM PDT by GOYAKLA (My Tee shirt for 2009-2012:" I voted FRED don't you wish you did")
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To: Schnucki

Does that mean I as a non-LEO can place a GPS device on others’ cars, as long as they’re parked on the street? Would I legally be permitted to put a GPS on a cop car parked on the street?


22 posted on 08/14/2008 4:20:44 PM PDT by ellery (It's a free country.)
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To: hellbender
I'm one of the victims.

If would be interested in your story about this if you would care to share. It might change my mind.

23 posted on 08/14/2008 5:59:19 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: Ghengis
There may be an opportunity for here for entrepreneurs. It should be pretty easy to create a limited range GPS signal blocker.
24 posted on 08/14/2008 6:04:30 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon ("An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last." Churchill)
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To: Jeff Gordon

Every piece of technology the police use is also in the hands of private detectives and organized crime. I can’t prove that there’s a GPS device on my car, and finding a well-planted bug in your residence is almost impossible, but circumstantial evidence suggests they are there, because I’ve suffered literally hundreds of burglaries (unforced entries), and somebody must know exactly when I’m home and how far I’m away. This all started when I became a whistleblower in the People’s Demonratic Republic of Maryland, has continued without letup for 29 years, and is still going on after I moved to another state. Then there’s the fact to consider that some cops are crooks, esp. in jurisdictions like MD. I’ll quote from another MD whistleblower: “You can’t go to the police because they own the police. You can’t go to the press because they own the press.” (We at FR should know how useless the media are at publicizing corruption in Demonrat jurisdictions, right?) If you google “gang stalking,” “cause stalking,” “revenge stalking,” and such topics, you will find some flaky tin-foil-hat stuff, but also much info that is true, stuff that I have experienced and that is also well known to cops, PIs, reporters, and others I have talked to. Relentless sophisticated stalking and harassment of innocent people is a reality. Often the creeps who do this will tell people the victim is a sex offender or some other undesirable, in order to get neighbors and others to collaborate in the crime. Bottom line: Don’t celebrate these technologies which a obliterating privacy in this country. They are a threat to everyone.


25 posted on 08/14/2008 6:59:50 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: hellbender
GPS and other surveillance technology is in use for criminal purposes by stalkers against innocent people. How do I know? I'm one of the victims

You too? I tell people it's a club no one wants to join.

26 posted on 08/14/2008 7:04:59 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: hellbender; All

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu5_l5aRI9EMAn_RXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyNXVvZDBvBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDNQRjb2xvA2FjMgR2dGlkA00wMDJfODY-/SIG=11e8n2jno/EXP=1218852709/**http%3a//www.zapchecker.com/

or hire a local PI to sweep your house/car/etc...;0)


27 posted on 08/14/2008 7:18:49 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
I'd like to hear your story, esp. if you have any ideas of how to stop this or defend against it. Incidentally, I don't exactly know a lot of people, but sheerly by chance I ran into two other victims in MD who were harassed for opposing powerful politically connected people. One of them said that the local police (Baltimore County, MD) had harassed her son. My experience is that that particular police dept. contains some of the most dishonest people I have ever met--habitual liars and smear artists--yet the local media portrays them as among the nation's finest. So when I hear people celebrating the fact that police are planting GPS devices on cars without even getting a warrant, I don't regard that as a very wise attitude. Every corrupt regime in the world has used police to destroy its enemies, and this country is no exception. In fact, honest cops have told me stories of how police spy and do dirty tricks on behalf of their political masters. That's one reason having Obama in the White House, in command of all the Federal law enforcement apparatus, is terrifying. Then give the Feds access to your medical records as part of socialized medicine, and things get even worse.
28 posted on 08/14/2008 7:28:57 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Schnucki

This is nothing other than excellent police work and is to be applauded. The only measure of their actions was that a dangerous sexual predator was removed from society. Anyone who would even bring up the question as to whether his “rights” were violated is seriously demented.


29 posted on 08/14/2008 7:50:14 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: Jeff Gordon

Dude, clear your sarcasm tags.


30 posted on 08/14/2008 8:11:13 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: GOYAKLA

Of course. It’s your personal property.


31 posted on 08/14/2008 8:15:19 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: hellbender

I was stalked by a police officer for seven years. I have since moved out of town. I think he figured out where I went and I had a few episodes the first year but then suddenly everything stopped. I have no idea why.

Mine was personal, an acquaintance, not politically motivated. However I learned more about how the system works and doesn’t work than I ever imagined. I am pretty sure he tapped my phone and had some sort of surveillance device on my car. He knew my work days and hours and came into my apartment when I was at work. I became very good at noticing little things out of place, etc. I received strange phone calls, harassing messages and I caught two of his cop friends checking around my apartment in their uniforms and patrol car.

It’s like a bad movie. People around you aren’t much support because even if they believe you they can’t understand. I received some very insulting comments from friends and a couple from other police officers when I tried to get something done.

I wish I had answers. I don’t know why it was done to me and sometimes I wonder if it was just for fun, maybe to see if I could be driven crazy. There are some very sick people out there and they try to get themselves into positions of power.

I’d be happy to give you more details in freepmail if that would help.


32 posted on 08/14/2008 9:23:01 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
An effective sweep for bugs is extremely expensive and exhaustive. It requires a nonlinear junction detector, which unfortunately will respond to innocent junk like rusty nails in the wall. Anyway, if you find a bug, what do you do? You still don't know who put it there, and they can come back and install another one. The best solution is to catch them in the act of entering one's house, but that's very difficult because these perps have skills on the level of intelligence agents. They are not common burglars. And suppose you find out they are cops, acting on the instructions from some politician, perhaps even with a warrant? In a corrupt jurisdiction (MD, Arkansas under the Clintons, Obama's hometown of Chicago, etc.) any crime can be done with impunity by people with the right connections.
33 posted on 08/15/2008 9:02:49 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
The device in your link is apparently only good for detecting things which are actively broadcasting RF signals. It is commonplace for bugs to be turned off when the people monitoring them detect that a sweep is taking place. Then the only way to find them is with a nonlinear junction detector. I really don't know how car GPS trackers work. E.g. is the GPS unit broadcasting all the time? Does it only respond when queried from a monitoring point?

Also, there a lots of cheap junky devices which claim to detect bugs and phone taps, but are useful only against amateur attacks. There are also PIs who do ineffective phony sweeps. Someone has said that PIs are so sleazy they make lawyers look like Boy Scouts.

34 posted on 08/15/2008 9:14:00 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: AnonymousConservative

goto SuperCircuits and buy a surveillance system that wirelessly uploads to a remote site. Problem solved, you have your stalker on video.
I had to do that as my x-wife was breaking into my home and vandalizing my place, I needed proof to press charges.


36 posted on 02/05/2015 6:55:32 AM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Jeff Gordon
Agreed. It is better than the police following you.

Actually they were following the guy but by using the GPS transmitter, they could remain out of sight. That was how they were able to catch the guy in the act of attacking a woman........

37 posted on 02/05/2015 7:04:40 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Man of "non-color" and proud of it)
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To: UCANSEE2
LE can’t search a trash can beside your house for evidence, without a warrant. But they can search it once you put it on the curb. Or they could put a GPS tracker on the bag of trash. Same with a car parked on the street.

If police had a GPS tracker small and light enough, would it, in your opinion, be Constitutional for an undercover cop to slip it into your coat pocket while you were in a public place, and thereafter use it to track your movements?

38 posted on 02/05/2015 7:08:15 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Jeff Gordon
Only those who have something to hide would worry about being tracked.

So ... we place one on every police officer, judge, prosecutor, legislator, congressman, senator, governor, president,and any other elected or appointed official. We set up a website at "www dot trackarat dot gov" and post their movements real-time.

If they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to worry about.

39 posted on 02/05/2015 7:13:12 AM PST by NorthMountain
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To: PapaBear3625

Sorry it took so long to respond.

I think you meant to post to someone else. I didn’t say any of that, that I can remember.

You do pose an interesting question. I don’t think that should be legal, but then again, most people carry a GPS tracker with them willingly.


40 posted on 02/06/2015 2:59:34 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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