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What's On The Desk (ONOZ! JBS Mag Spotted On Palin's Desk!)
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0908/Whats_on_the_desk.html ^ | 9/18/08 | Ben Smith

Posted on 09/19/2008 7:38:10 AM PDT by steve-b

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To: steve-b

LSD Logik: It’s okay to hang out at hate sites like the lying Kos and DU, and it’s kewl to read scialist propaganda like The Nation and Mother Jones, but doncha dare be a city council member with a copy of The New American on your desk, even if it was mass-mailed by JBS to local officials.


41 posted on 09/19/2008 8:20:47 AM PDT by Josh Painter ("I don't believe that people should be able to own guns." - Barack Obama)
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To: Califreak
If Americans were just a little bit Birchy, maybe things wouldn’t be such a mess now.

But let's not get too Birchy. Remember, the JBS opposed Ronald Reagan, were against aiding the Nicaraguan Contras, and even opposed Proposition 13, the California tax-cutting initiative. Through their house organ, The new American, the Birchers continually blasted Newt Gingrich during the 1990's and even dissed Rush Limbaugh. Sometimes, I wonder which side they're really on.

42 posted on 09/19/2008 8:31:16 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: steve-b

Let me know if she starts hanging around with domestic terrorists who try to blow up the pentagon, or attends a church where the pastor implores, “God damn America”.


43 posted on 09/19/2008 8:31:52 AM PDT by slackerjack
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To: B Knotts
Regardless, I think we have to confront the Communist threat again.
No. I’m talking about the communism that is attacking our culture and traditions. It eminates largely from our universities.
I guess the reason for my assumption is I'm not aware of anytime anyone has ever confronted communisim from our universities.
44 posted on 09/19/2008 8:45:37 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: KarlInOhio; PJ-Comix
Or at least professionally decontaminated before returning here.

Hey, PJ, they figured out your secret for safely infiltrating DUmmieland.

45 posted on 09/19/2008 8:47:51 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Antoninus
a cogent, fair post

As always.

Let me know when you finish reading it.

46 posted on 09/19/2008 8:50:46 AM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: Califreak

Amen!


47 posted on 09/19/2008 8:58:38 AM PDT by varina davis (Life is not a dress rehearsal)
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To: ctdonath2

I, with you, have a rather large library. As a Christian pastor, I also have copies of the Koran and many other “theological” books from various viewpoints on my bookshelves. Does this make me a Islamofasist? As someone else noted, “Know your enemy!” I would rather be well read than either red or dead (or besmirched by the mass media).


48 posted on 09/19/2008 9:00:37 AM PDT by T Baden
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To: Dick Bachert; All
Can you or someone please tell me what is wrong with being a John Birch member? My dad was a member and I looked it up and could find nothing wrong with the organization. Why are they always put down in print like, say, the Communist Party or other radical organizations. What do they believe in that is anti-American? Aloha
49 posted on 09/19/2008 9:01:12 AM PDT by fish hawk (a taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders)
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To: fish hawk

Because the Birchers WERE right about what was going on THEN and correct in predicting what is going on NOW in terms of those in power destroying American sovereignty and merging us into some BS cockamaimie One World Utopia where our would-be masters would be more equal than others.

For those reasons, the controlled national media was put to work belittling and discrediting the JBS. Sadly for us, they succeeded beyond their wildest dreams to the point where even MENTIONING the JBS in “polite” company elicited snears and smirks and dismissive hand gestures.

I was a a member for over 10 years but let my membership lapse so I could continue to try to educate those around me to what was being done to us while answering the simpering and frequent question “Are you a Bircher?” with an honest “No.”

At a philosophical level, as the grandfather of six kids who, if these One World B**TARDS DO have their way with this nation, will live as virtual serfs, I never left the JBS! Knowing what I know, I never will!

And for those who claim there’s really nothing going on behind the curtain (i.e. a “CONSPIRACY”), read on.

For those suffering from ADD, a video series on all of this is at

ORIGINS OF THE UN, PART 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAzl21AfnZU

ORIGINS OF THE UN, PART 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0qV2OM8ajQ

ORIGINS OF THE UN, PART 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrkshIXYiPs

Carroll Quigley was Bill Clinton’s MENTOR at Georgetown and praised Quigley in his acceptance speech.

Conspiracy?? NAAAHHHHH!!

“Tragedy & Hope” Carroll Quigley, Macmillan Co, NY 1966 Partial pages 949-950

The radical Right version of these events as written up by John T. Flynn, Freda Utley, and others, was even more remote from the truth than were Budenz’s or Bentley’s versions, although it had a tremendous impact on American opinion and American relations with other counties in the years 1947-1955. This radical Right fairy tale, which is now an accepted folk myth in many groups in America, pictured the recent history of the United States, in regard to domestic reform and in foreign affairs, as a well-organized plot by extreme Left-wing elements, operating from the White House itself and controlling all the chief avenues of publicity in the United States, to destroy the American way of life, based on private enterprise, laissez faire, and isolationism, in behalf of alien ideologies of Russian Socialism and British cosmopolitanism (or internationalism). This plot, if we are to believe the myth, worked through such avenues of publicity as The New York Times and the Herald Tribune, the Christian Science Monitor and the Washington Post, the Atlantic Monthly and Harper’s Magazine and had at its core the wild-eyed and bushy-haired theoreticians of Socialist Harvard and the London School of Economics. It was determined to bring the United States into World War II on the side of England (Roosevelt’s first love) and Soviet Russia (his second love) in order to destroy every finer element of American life and, as part of this consciously planned scheme, invited Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, and destroyed Chiang Kai-shek, all the while undermining America’s real strength by excessive spending and unbalanced budgets.

This myth, like all fables, does in fact have a modicum of truth. There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960’s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies (notably to its belief that England was an Atlantic rather than a European Power and must be allied, or even federated, with the United States and must remain isolated from Europe, but in general my chief difference of opinion IS THAT IT WISHES TO REMAIN UNKNOWN (emphasis added) and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.
The Round Table Groups have already been mentioned in this book several times, n6tably in connection with the formation of the British Commonwealth in chapter 4 and in the discussion of appeasement in chapter 12 (”the Cliveden Set”). At the risk of some repetition, the story will be summarized here, because the’ American branch of this organization (sometimes called the “Eastern Establishment”) has played a very significant role in the history of the United States in the last generation.

The Round Table’ Groups were semi-secret discussion and lobbying groups organized by Lionel Curtis, Philip H. Kerr (Lord Lothian), and (Sir) William S. Marris in 1908-1911. This was done on behalf of Lord Milner, the dominant Trustee of the Rhodes Trust in the two decades 1905-1925. The original purpose of these groups was to seek to federate the English-speaking world along lines laid down by Cecil Rhodes (I 853-1902) and William T. Stead (1849-1912), and the money for the organizational work came originally from the Rhodes Trust. By 1915 Round Table groups existed in seven countries, including England, South Africa, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, and a rather loosely organized group in the United States (George Louis Beer, Walter Lippmann, Frank Aydelotte, Whitney Shepardson, Thomas W. Lamont, Jerome D. Greene, Erwin D. Canham of the Christian Science Monitor, and others). The attitudes of the various groups were coordinated by frequent visits and discussions and by a well-informed and totally anonymous quarterly magazine, The Round Table, whose first issue, largely written by Philip Kerr, appeared in November 1910.


50 posted on 09/19/2008 9:36:13 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: fish hawk

Because the Birchers WERE right about what was going on THEN and correct in predicting what is going on NOW in terms of those in power destroying American sovereignty and merging us into some BS cockamaimie One World Utopia where our would-be masters would be more equal than others.

For those reasons, the controlled national media was put to work belittling and discrediting the JBS. Sadly for us, they succeeded beyond their wildest dreams to the point where even MENTIONING the JBS in “polite” company elicited sneers and smirks and dismissive hand gestures.

I was a a member for over 10 years but let my membership lapse so I could continue to try to educate those around me to what was being done to us while answering the simpering and frequent question “Are you a Bircher?” with an honest “No.”

At a philosophical level, as the grandfather of six kids who, if these One World B**TARDS DO have their way with this nation, will live as virtual serfs, I never left the JBS! Knowing what I know, I never will!

And for those who claim there’s really nothing going on behind the curtain (i.e. a “CONSPIRACY”), read on.

For those suffering from ADD, a video series on all of this is at

ORIGINS OF THE UN, PART 1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAzl21AfnZU

ORIGINS OF THE UN, PART 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0qV2OM8ajQ

ORIGINS OF THE UN, PART 3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrkshIXYiPs

Carroll Quigley was Bill Clinton’s MENTOR at Georgetown and praised Quigley in his acceptance speech.

Conspiracy?? NAAAHHHHH!!

“Tragedy & Hope” Carroll Quigley, Macmillan Co, NY 1966 Partial pages 949-950

The radical Right version of these events as written up by John T. Flynn, Freda Utley, and others, was even more remote from the truth than were Budenz’s or Bentley’s versions, although it had a tremendous impact on American opinion and American relations with other counties in the years 1947-1955. This radical Right fairy tale, which is now an accepted folk myth in many groups in America, pictured the recent history of the United States, in regard to domestic reform and in foreign affairs, as a well-organized plot by extreme Left-wing elements, operating from the White House itself and controlling all the chief avenues of publicity in the United States, to destroy the American way of life, based on private enterprise, laissez faire, and isolationism, in behalf of alien ideologies of Russian Socialism and British cosmopolitanism (or internationalism). This plot, if we are to believe the myth, worked through such avenues of publicity as The New York Times and the Herald Tribune, the Christian Science Monitor and the Washington Post, the Atlantic Monthly and Harper’s Magazine and had at its core the wild-eyed and bushy-haired theoreticians of Socialist Harvard and the London School of Economics. It was determined to bring the United States into World War II on the side of England (Roosevelt’s first love) and Soviet Russia (his second love) in order to destroy every finer element of American life and, as part of this consciously planned scheme, invited Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, and destroyed Chiang Kai-shek, all the while undermining America’s real strength by excessive spending and unbalanced budgets.

This myth, like all fables, does in fact have a modicum of truth. There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960’s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies (notably to its belief that England was an Atlantic rather than a European Power and must be allied, or even federated, with the United States and must remain isolated from Europe, but in general my chief difference of opinion IS THAT IT WISHES TO REMAIN UNKNOWN (emphasis added) and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known.
The Round Table Groups have already been mentioned in this book several times, n6tably in connection with the formation of the British Commonwealth in chapter 4 and in the discussion of appeasement in chapter 12 (”the Cliveden Set”). At the risk of some repetition, the story will be summarized here, because the’ American branch of this organization (sometimes called the “Eastern Establishment”) has played a very significant role in the history of the United States in the last generation.

The Round Table’ Groups were semi-secret discussion and lobbying groups organized by Lionel Curtis, Philip H. Kerr (Lord Lothian), and (Sir) William S. Marris in 1908-1911. This was done on behalf of Lord Milner, the dominant Trustee of the Rhodes Trust in the two decades 1905-1925. The original purpose of these groups was to seek to federate the English-speaking world along lines laid down by Cecil Rhodes (I 853-1902) and William T. Stead (1849-1912), and the money for the organizational work came originally from the Rhodes Trust. By 1915 Round Table groups existed in seven countries, including England, South Africa, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India, and a rather loosely organized group in the United States (George Louis Beer, Walter Lippmann, Frank Aydelotte, Whitney Shepardson, Thomas W. Lamont, Jerome D. Greene, Erwin D. Canham of the Christian Science Monitor, and others). The attitudes of the various groups were coordinated by frequent visits and discussions and by a well-informed and totally anonymous quarterly magazine, The Round Table, whose first issue, largely written by Philip Kerr, appeared in November 1910.


51 posted on 09/19/2008 9:36:37 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
Thanks for the quick response. I will save this info and go over it all soon. Aloha from Maui
52 posted on 09/19/2008 9:50:08 AM PDT by fish hawk (a taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col. Sanders)
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To: BenLurkin

LOL Good one, Ben.


53 posted on 09/19/2008 10:14:43 AM PDT by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that want's to gut our Second Amendment!)
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To: steve-b

New Scandal!!! Palin doesn’t read People or US!!!


54 posted on 09/19/2008 10:19:19 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Dick Bachert
Good post. The JBS has done all the deep research and continues to, about the slow but long takeover of this country by the, let's say" "left wing of the world". Freepers would be surprised with how much they agree with JBS if they hadn't been influenced by the smear campaign in the past by the same people who are taking over all facets of our freedoms right now.

FMCDH(BITS)

55 posted on 09/19/2008 11:03:10 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: RC2
Nothing wrong with reading those types of magazines. Remember the old saying....”Keep your friends close and your enemys closer.”?

I don't see what's so bad about the JBS anyway unless I'm missing something. As far as I can tell, they're an anti-Russia, anti-China, anti-UN group. I've got no problem whatsoever with that.

56 posted on 09/19/2008 11:43:13 AM PDT by jmc813 (F the Chargers)
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To: Califreak
Palin just gets better and better!

If Americans were just a little bit Birchy, maybe things wouldn’t be such a mess now.

Unfortunately, the JBS and TNA are opposed to the WOT.

That being said, I used to be a member and still have some of their books.

57 posted on 09/19/2008 11:47:14 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Arami 'oved 'Avi . . .)
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To: nothingnew; wideawake
Good post. The JBS has done all the deep research and continues to, about the slow but long takeover of this country by the, let's say" "left wing of the world". Freepers would be surprised with how much they agree with JBS if they hadn't been influenced by the smear campaign in the past by the same people who are taking over all facets of our freedoms right now.

Not wanting to get into a big row over this, but the JBS is bad news. And I say this as a former member who used to think the sun rose and sat in them.

Their views are those of Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul. Plus they seem to have adopted an extreme form of "chr*tian reconstructionism" as a quasi-official theology. They have promoted books by anti-Semitic authors (real anti-Semites, not victims of liberal smears) like Nesta Webster and Prince Michel Sturdza (an apologist for the ultra-violent, murderous Romanian Iron Guard). Many of their leaders, while shouting their throats off for Chiang Kai-shek, Ian Smith, and Anastasio Somoza (not that they weren't worthy of conservative support) have, with the exception of a brief time after Begin came to power in '77, always discovered "noninterventionism" whenever Israel was under attack by Communist Arabs.

I'll say this again: I used to be a member. I thought they were great. But I can tell you from personal experience that they are not. And what a shame, since they potentially could have been such a force for good.

Pinging wideawake in case I get called a "neocon" over this.

58 posted on 09/19/2008 12:00:46 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ('Arami 'oved 'Avi . . .)
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To: Tarpon; PJ-Comix
PJ should be jailed ...

Yes, if only for his bizarre advertising for Flor de Cana... Publix... his "secret" source of DiGornio pizzas.

:)

59 posted on 09/19/2008 12:05:23 PM PDT by kevkrom (McCain/Palin '08 -- Palin / ??? '12)
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To: NeoCaveman
So she’s the first NeoCon/PaleoCon. Would this make her a paleoneocon or a neopaleocon?

Maybe she needed the tanning bed because she was a pale neocon?

60 posted on 09/19/2008 12:06:54 PM PDT by kevkrom (McCain/Palin '08 -- Palin / ??? '12)
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