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LIVE THREAD- Bernanke, Paulson testify before Congress -23 Spetember 2008
C-Span ^ | 23 September 2008

Posted on 09/23/2008 5:19:04 AM PDT by SE Mom

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To: SE Mom

the Clinton administration has their finger prints all over this mess.


41 posted on 09/23/2008 6:42:39 AM PDT by tioga (Bring on the debates! While Obama wows the media, McCain will win over Americans.)
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To: SE Mom

OMG- he’s accusing the banking system of reckless and bad lending practices..and private greed. NOT a moment of self-examination.

Dodd is a liar of the first order.


42 posted on 09/23/2008 6:43:02 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-McCain/Palin 08)
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To: SE Mom

didn’t dodd get his payoff for the performance already? how can HE be the chairman of this?


43 posted on 09/23/2008 6:44:25 AM PDT by tioga (Bring on the debates! While Obama wows the media, McCain will win over Americans.)
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To: SE Mom
Chris Dodd has as much credibility discussing Fannie Mae's solvency as Ken Lay had promoting Enron.
44 posted on 09/23/2008 6:44:30 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Lipstick wearing Okie Moosehead!)
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To: SE Mom
For anyone who missed it, some history....

Andrew Cuomo and Fannie and Freddie How the youngest Housing and Urban Development secretary in history gave birth to the mortgage crisis

45 posted on 09/23/2008 6:45:05 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: tioga

It’s unthinkable that he is sitting there with his false outrage and smug attitude- he is smack in the middle of this disaster.


46 posted on 09/23/2008 6:45:33 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-McCain/Palin 08)
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To: mewzilla

You might want to pass that article on to John McCain.


47 posted on 09/23/2008 6:45:47 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: SE Mom

Just heard a report that Wall Street is lobbying Congress to include bad car loan debt and credit card debt!! It is truly stunning!!

Now we might have to pay for the houses, cars and credit cards of the ‘looters’...(Atlas Shrugged term).

UNFREAKINGBELIEVABLE!!


48 posted on 09/23/2008 6:45:50 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: TornadoAlley3

I don’t think too much of Shelby either- we’ll see if he has any guts today.


49 posted on 09/23/2008 6:46:39 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-McCain/Palin 08)
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To: jersey117
You might want to pass that article on to John McCain.

Don't get me started on McCain.....

50 posted on 09/23/2008 6:47:06 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

“Last time I looked over 90% of homeowners with mortgages were making their payments on time. I don’t think those folks are going to want to bail out the rest, either.”

It might be getting worse. See my post in #49!!


51 posted on 09/23/2008 6:47:49 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: SE Mom; xzins
The events leading us here began many years ago, starting with bad lending practices by banks and financial institutions, and by borrowers taking out mortgages they couldn’t afford.

And I am proposing solving this problem by borrowing trillions of dollars that we can not afford.

Paulson's solution is the definition of insanity.

52 posted on 09/23/2008 6:48:32 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: SE Mom

Congress. King George III. What’s the diff....


53 posted on 09/23/2008 6:48:45 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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Dodd: Government Can Mandate What Profit is ‘Fair’ for Business
Senate Banking Chairman targets oil firms for windfall profits tax.

By Jeff Poor
Business & Media Institute
6/10/2008 1:12:53 PM

When a high-ranking U.S. senator sounds more like Karl Marx than Adam Smith over the issue of energy prices, it must be an election year.

Democratic Sen. Chris Dodd, the chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, appeared on CNBC’s June 10 “Squawk Box” pushing government control of corporate profits. Dodd said he considered a company to be “doing very, very well” with profits above $8 or $10 per barrel of oil. He said he advocated a windfall profits tax, where Congress would determine what amount of profit is fair and what isn’t.

Co-host Joe Kernan called the Connecticut senator on the idea, asking if he was going to apply the same strategy to other types of businesses. “Are you going to go across industries across the board and decide what Congress thinks is a fair amount of profit and drawing a lines on what’s fair and what’s not for corporations?” Kernan then emphasized the point. “That’s not the way it’s done in this country, senator. It could never be done that way, could it?”

“Yes, it could be,” Dodd said. “In fact it’s been done that way in the past and particularly when you’re trying to get some relief for people out here when the economy is in a tailspin. We’re about to go into a recession here. This is really causing a tremendous dislocation, not only here, but around the world.”

Dodd was correct – such a measure has been tried before – the Windfall Profits Tax enacted in 1980. But, according to the American Petroleum Institute (API), 1.26 billion fewer barrels of oil were produced domestically due to the tax.

Dodd also made the extraordinary statement that these taxes should be taken from the oil companies and invested in other sources of energy or be given back to consumers in the form of a rebate.

“Squawk Box” co-host Becky Quick: “Sen. Dodd, you’re talking about a lot of different things though. The idea of a windfall profits tax itself – the idea if for everything over $50 a barrel or everything over $80 a barrel – that would be taken by the government. That’s a pretty different idea than the idea of cutting back some of the subsidies?”

Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.): “Well no, what I’m talking about here – I think what they’re talking about – is any over that would go either one of two things. Either you invest those additional profits back into development, alternatives – more additional exploration we’re talking about – or a rebate back to consumers to offer them some financial relief. That’s what we’re talking about here, some relief to give people.”

But according to API, these companies are already paying more in taxes than the top corporate rate, as their tax burden has nearly doubled in the last two years.

“Total current income taxes paid by the 27 largest U.S. energy companies increased from $48.4 billion in 2004 to $66.9 billion in 2005 to $90.4 billion in 2006 (an 87% increase in just two years), resulting in an effective tax rate of 40 percent – more than the top U.S. corporate income tax rate of 35 percent.”

Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), who also appeared on “Squawk Box” with Dodd, said the solution to the current high gas prices is to increase the supply.

“What we need is more supply,” Shelby, the ranking Republican on the Senate Banking Committee, said. “We need more oil. We need to drill. We need to drill in Alaska. We need to drill offshore. We can do all of that and protect the environment. Everybody knows that except for some of my Democratic friends. However, if we just tax everybody and we don’t increase the supply, we’re in a real dilemma for the future.”

The Senate defeated a measure to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska on May 13. The vote, an amendment to another bill, was killed by a vote of 42-56, largely along party lines – including Dodd who voted against it and Shelby who voted for it.

Shelby also pointed out taxing the oil companies more would not lower the price of gasoline or increase the supply of oil.


54 posted on 09/23/2008 6:49:50 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Lipstick wearing Okie Moosehead!)
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To: mewzilla

Actually- it’s about to be King Henry IX.


55 posted on 09/23/2008 6:50:00 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-McCain/Palin 08)
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To: penelopesire
"Just heard a report that Wall Street is lobbying Congress to include bad car loan debt and credit card debt!! It is truly stunning!! "

Is there anyone still living who believes after today, that our Congress and the Dem party is not run by real communists they have to be blind, deaf and dumb.

56 posted on 09/23/2008 6:50:33 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: penelopesire
Oh Yes - STUDENT LOANS - are to be included as well!!
(Read that somewhere here last nite at 3am, since I couldn't sleep!)
57 posted on 09/23/2008 6:50:53 AM PDT by lucyblue
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To: penelopesire

This nation needs another revolution.


58 posted on 09/23/2008 6:51:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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To: SE Mom

Bernanke and Paulson need to be thrown out on their petards and replaced ASAP! As a self-confessed ‘Bush Bot’...I have never been as mad at him as I am right now! He is letting these people lead him around by the nose! What is going on?


59 posted on 09/23/2008 6:51:31 AM PDT by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: SE Mom

Richard Shelby is such an idiot. Chris Dodd was the #1 recipient of Fannie Mae cash, and spent his time taking shots at Wall St., “golden parachutes”, and Bush (”we need a strong President”). Then Shelby comes on and says NOTHING about the Democrats who led us down this path.


60 posted on 09/23/2008 6:52:26 AM PDT by montag813
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