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Dow industrials plummet as much as 700; Nasdaq Composite down 5.7%
Market Watch ^

Posted on 09/29/2008 11:16:12 AM PDT by 300magnum

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To: andy58-in-nh
“I've been in financial services for more than 20 years, and I don't think you all understand how serious this is. We are looking at truly global consequences exacerbated by the effects of financial leverage.”

I agree, and not only that, it likely will get a total Marxist elected because Republicans are going to get all the blame!

President Bush went on TV to say the economy and markets would crash if this didn't get fixed, and soon.

Well, it will and we'll get the blame.

61 posted on 09/29/2008 11:53:19 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: what's up
Great come back!

sw

62 posted on 09/29/2008 11:54:45 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (The Gov't can't legislate happiness)
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To: am452
Us poor shlobs nearing retirement who paid by the rules are screwed.

Nah, stocks are finally going to become affordable again. Last time I did pretty well, and Im confident I can do it again. I'll let you know how it turns out in a year or so.

63 posted on 09/29/2008 11:54:51 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: am452

“Easy for that gas bag to say that when he gets 50 mill a year in a contract.”

Envy is an ugly thing...


64 posted on 09/29/2008 11:55:23 AM PDT by Checkers (Voting for McCain? Then don't complain. (Hey, that rhymes.))
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To: am452

I’m sorry you’re losing money, I truly am. I know the dreams of sitting on the beach or traveling in the RV to visit the kids is a big one.

However, up until recently, people worked until they died. It could be that way again. I will. We chose to homeschool the girls instead of my employment. In the end, please say Hi to me as I greet you at Walmart or serve you coffee in the drive-thru window at McDonalds.

Everything that we have put away has lost money. Our house is worth nothing here in MI. In that house is the equity from my parent’s house, the one my hubby bought GI and the sweat I have put in to take it from a “fixer-upper” to home.

And I’m 48. Nor am I going to whine about it. I’m praying and happy. Today could have been much worse.


65 posted on 09/29/2008 11:57:37 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Hope is not a strategy, change is not a destination.)
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To: Checkers

I would have liked to retire at 68. That’s 18 years from now; not exactly the longest of time horizons, nor the shortest. The problem is, when you’ve been working for 30 years as I have, it’s a lot harder to make back the losses, especially as you have to start dialing back the risk profile of your investments. If your assets lose 20% of their value, they need to go back up by 25% just to get you back where you once were.


66 posted on 09/29/2008 11:59:48 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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To: 300magnum

They’re just taking out their money so they can enjoy the coming spring of freedom and individual liberty


67 posted on 09/29/2008 12:00:14 PM PDT by MattAMiller
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To: am452

“Us poor shlobs nearing retirement who paid by the rules are screwed.”

How “near” are you to retirement?


68 posted on 09/29/2008 12:01:33 PM PDT by Checkers (Voting for McCain? Then don't complain. (Hey, that rhymes.))
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To: andy58-in-nh
That’s a little too easy to say when you aren’t watching your retirement fund sucked down the drain.?

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger.

Suck it up and be glad we got the victory over socialism, fleeting though it might be.

69 posted on 09/29/2008 12:01:43 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: andy58-in-nh
That’s a little too easy to say when you aren’t watching your retirement fund sucked down the drain.?

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger.

Suck it up and be glad we got the victory over socialism, fleeting though it might be.

70 posted on 09/29/2008 12:02:27 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: MSRiverdog

agreed - people will find that out later, I’m afraid


71 posted on 09/29/2008 12:04:58 PM PDT by NKStarr
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To: what's up
Yes, and it's really hell when we have people like you laughing in glee over people losing their retirement.

So stop gambling with your retirement monies.

72 posted on 09/29/2008 12:06:52 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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To: netmilsmom

Wal-Mart and McDonald’s rely on functioning credit markets in order to fund and operate their businesses.

Having said that, while a continuing credit contraction becoming more severe will cause many businesses to fail, and unemployment to soar, as a larger percentage of the population becomes lower-income, some businesses that are well-positioned to serve the lower-income sector, such as Wal-Mart, will likely make out much better than others.


73 posted on 09/29/2008 12:08:10 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: dashing doofus; Beagle8U
I would dearly love to see the Republicans come together and craft a truly market-based alternative to the Democrats' bill. It is clear that the Democrats cannot solve the problem they themselves have created. The markets will only calm down if they believe a realistic and workable solution is possible, and not one resembling the abortive mess rejected today, that would have vastly expanded government spending and the scope of Federal power without any guarantee that it would work, and without addressing the true source of the problem: socialization of risk.
74 posted on 09/29/2008 12:08:54 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Somewhere in Illinois, a community is missing its organizer.)
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To: netmilsmom
What makes you conclude that people who are invested in the Stock Market didn't work as hard as you for their money?

" the end, please say Hi to me as I greet you at Walmart or serve you coffee in the drive-thru window at McDonalds."

If you'd have wisely invested your money in Wal+Mart or McDonalds, you wouldn't have to work as a greeter in your golden years.

Truth is a two way street.

sw

75 posted on 09/29/2008 12:09:29 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (The Gov't can't legislate happiness)
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To: andy58-in-nh

There are definitely some things that need to be done (starting with removing the foxes from guarding the hen house), but this was not the right solution. Newt has some good ideas, as do some of the house republicans.

A lot of folks need to go to jail or be removed from office for allowing this to happen this. There have been plenty of warnings. I don’t care which party they are in.


76 posted on 09/29/2008 12:10:09 PM PDT by txjeep
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To: 300magnum
5 Year View


77 posted on 09/29/2008 12:10:14 PM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: Centurion2000
So stop gambling with your retirement monies.

Ah, another "populist" against investing in the stock market.

Anti-capitalism at its best.

78 posted on 09/29/2008 12:12:29 PM PDT by what's up
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To: HIDEK6
be glad we got the victory over socialism

the waves of socialist policies would eventually overwhelm our economy anyway.

79 posted on 09/29/2008 12:13:05 PM PDT by alrea (two words for the next debate: Franklin Raines)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Well, I can do medical transcription at home.

The point is, stop complaining. Our forefathers did retire at 65.


80 posted on 09/29/2008 12:18:02 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Hope is not a strategy, change is not a destination.)
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