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Battleground Poll: O 53 (+2) M 40 (-3)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/RCP_PDF/BG_101408_2-way-ballot-trender.pdf ^

Posted on 10/14/2008 7:20:31 AM PDT by Longstreet63

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To: murron

Its pure garbage.
this tracking poll has been changed and changed by the Obama drone running it.


61 posted on 10/14/2008 7:48:18 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Fawn
Don't forget that MOST of 0bama supporters are under the age of 25....

Actually, most Obama supporters are over 110, according to the latest slew of ACORN registrants...

62 posted on 10/14/2008 7:49:45 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Cedric

You know Cedric...before it was my opinion that was suspect because I wasn’t here long enough according to you...and now, this poll is suspect because...ah...must be again because I haven’t been here long enough...wow, what a brilliant critique of the poll

We are behind in this election...ALL the polls says so...and you respond by attacking my motives...excellent...


63 posted on 10/14/2008 7:50:03 AM PDT by Longstreet63 (Che Guevara is a genocidal hero of the ignorant...)
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To: Longstreet63
I posted like many others have...if you don’t want to deal with it don’t...

Don't get snippy. I asked you a question and it wasn't a difficult one. What is your motivation?

There have been a lot of new people on here posting negative articles and polls. We have a right to question your motives since you have not been here long enough for us to know you.

Answer the question, please. And if you get snippy (defensive) again, it will only make you look quite suspect.

64 posted on 10/14/2008 7:51:48 AM PDT by Allegra (3 weeks left...we can do this.)
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To: Longstreet63

Well, there’s something we can agree on.


65 posted on 10/14/2008 7:52:25 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: rubeng
WHY IS IT SO DAMN HARD TO BELIEVE MCCAIN IS LOSING?

Because (1) look who he's running against, Barak Hussein Obama, a marxist with ties to terrorists and crooks, and virtually no experience, (2) other more reliable polls show the race tightening (IBD, Ras, Zogby and even Gallup), (3) dems, especially the youth vote aren't reliable voters, and (4) SARAH PALIN!

66 posted on 10/14/2008 7:52:56 AM PDT by Proudcongal (POW/WOW '08)
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To: kesg
Exactly how many more times has the Obama drones at George Washington Univ demanded that there consultant Battleground Poll changed the formula again.
Read the quote from the Obama supporter at BS trying to justify her formula changes !
The Poll is funded by George Wash Univ . Need I saw anymore about the motivation!

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/battleground_drops_party_weigh.php

67 posted on 10/14/2008 7:53:32 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Longstreet63

They don’t yet have their internals for this poll, but check out their internals for the 10/9 Poll here: http://www.tarrance.com/files/Public-tables-10.9.pdf

If I’m reading it right, it shows
355 Dems
148 Indep
300 Reps


I don’t think this is very “representative.” For one, it’s a very small sample. For two, there are (i think) statistically significantly fewer Republicans polled than Democrats/Other. For three, this shows a TWO-WAY race, which isn’t reality. 2-3% of votes will end up going for a third party candidate. Put those all together, and ... STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO POLLS!

(Watch http://www.tarrance.com/bg.cfm for updates (hopefully) to internals)


68 posted on 10/14/2008 7:54:07 AM PDT by Sibre Fan
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To: rubeng

I came to this conclusion about two weeks ago. It is all but over. I am being realistic and seeing that more than 1/2 of america does not care about Obama and his friends, or his cheating ACORN relationship, or his lack of experience, or that is is a fool.

It is all mind boggling!!!!


69 posted on 10/14/2008 7:55:24 AM PDT by JFC
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To: TitansAFC

Battlground has gone to the dark side.


70 posted on 10/14/2008 7:56:22 AM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Allegra

My motivation? Ok...it’s called posting the polls...and the reason why people are posting negative articles is because it is apparent that McCain is losing and people are worried...and they should be...I didn’t know that this was a forum to be all cheery all the time...my mistake...

snippy, huh? Let me see...I post a poll and your reaction is to question my motivation because you don’t like the poll...is this the discourse that I’m to expect?


71 posted on 10/14/2008 7:58:55 AM PDT by Longstreet63 (Che Guevara is a genocidal hero of the ignorant...)
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To: HerrBlucher

The strategy is to kick up the polls for O after all this dirt comes out to show that “negative campaigning” is having the opposite effect and therefore McCain should stop. Its a trick to try and get the McCain campaign to stop the very effective tactics of showing Americans that bambi is a chicago thug commie fraud. They are scared it is working and doing all they can to end it.”

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I think you are exactly right. That has been my thesis as well. These polls have gone over the top in their bias as much as the MSM has in their promotion of 0. These negative ads are working but I’m afraid McCain will switch course once again.

That SurveyUSA poll out yesterday about Missouri was another example stating 0 had opened up a large lead (8 pts) and was actually leading with whites and men. A huge turnaround in those demographics which was an out and out lie. Having lived in MO most of my life I’ll guarantee that poll wasn’t even remotely correct.

It’s unbelievable how partisan and corrupt the entire process has become.


72 posted on 10/14/2008 8:00:57 AM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: Allegra
It's the latest rage among dubious newbies as, no doubt, taught at the Advanced Training Seminar.

1. Post a bogus or mis-titled poll.

2. Tell everyone you'll "kill yourself" if Obama wins.

3. Stand by "helplessly" as other newbies flood in to spread the D & G.

It's so clever, so deft, so very subtle.

73 posted on 10/14/2008 8:01:04 AM PDT by Cedric
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To: Longstreet63

For the record, Longstreet63, I for one don’t fault you for posting the poll. It is a “legit” poll posted on RCP, so even though I don’t like it, I see no reason why you shouldn’t post it so we can all talk about it.


74 posted on 10/14/2008 8:01:37 AM PDT by Proudcongal (POW/WOW '08)
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To: Longstreet63
When did this forum become a place to launch ad hominems at people?

1998!

75 posted on 10/14/2008 8:01:44 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (White Trash for Sarah!)
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To: johncocktoasten

This same crowd ignored the poll before its was radically changed its formula for its client G Wash Univ four weeks ago and they had the race real close .


76 posted on 10/14/2008 8:02:24 AM PDT by ncalburt
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To: reagan_fanatic
Reality is McCain is down in the polls right now. He would lose if the election were today....but it isn't....Thankfully. But people need to open their eyes and see McCain is down. Clearly down. Yes, MSM use their push-polls to suppress GOP turnout....Yes, they use their push-polls to try and persuade undecideds for Obama.....and Obama's margins are tweaked upward.....but sans all the MSM BS....McCain is losing right now plain and simple. Having his as$ handed to him by the MSM and a pathetic Obama.

The other reality is the McCain camp has run (thus far) an incoherent campaign. He has not run as a conservative whatsoever, granted he's not one, you can find the old tired dolt attacking his very own platform of tax-cuts (yesterday), attacking the GOP more than the DEMs.....Not making the case against DEM policies be it on the economy, wall street or even Obama's nothing-record or his judgment on who he has associated with for years......

McCain's message on all...is incoherent.....That is the sad truth...... Though I still hope enough Americans can think for themselves with regard to what an Obama Presidency could do....The harm it could cause.

McCain has no philosophy......and men with no real philosophy will find it hard to have others follow them.

77 posted on 10/14/2008 8:02:41 AM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: Murp

If the pollsters are deliberately skewing their internals to overstate Obamas support, and if on Nov. 4th McCain wins, the blood that runs in the streets of our inner cities will be on their hands. God have Mercy on them.”

*****

Yes, it won’t be the Bradley effect it will be the skewed polling effect.


78 posted on 10/14/2008 8:03:33 AM PDT by bereanway (Sarah get your gun)
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To: Cedric

Can we stop this nonsense? I happen to think that the ObaMessiah is winning as do many here (even non-newbies). We can have a discussion of why he’s up (MSM, fraud, part ID, etc.), but to belittle someone for no other reason than to convince yourself of something is ludicrous. Let’s discuss things instead of this crap.


79 posted on 10/14/2008 8:04:55 AM PDT by Longstreet63 (Che Guevara is a genocidal hero of the ignorant...)
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To: Proudcongal

The probler I have is that this POLL was IGNORED UNTIL the George Wash Univ / BS poll was radically changed four weeks which caused this HUGE unusual shift to Obama .
Previously, the poll showed a close race and it was never posted on this website by this crowd or ignored when posted !


80 posted on 10/14/2008 8:05:29 AM PDT by ncalburt
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