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Bingo! Another Fallacy: Students Make Game Of Mapping Candidates' Errors In Logic
Baltimore Sun ^ | 10/16/08 | Stephen Kiehl

Posted on 10/16/2008 8:07:15 AM PDT by steve-b

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To: steve-b

Along the same lines, my son’s American Government class watched Debate #2 and analyzed who did and did not answer the questions asked. The end result was (approx) McCain 75% vs. Obama 30%. Even kids in the class who support O admitted he skirted questions and barely gave answers.


21 posted on 10/16/2008 8:32:56 AM PDT by buschbaby (I need a plumber to clear all the democrap)
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To: subterfuge
The article clearly states "As McCain continued, Professor Anne Nester shouted out, "Whoa! Class warfare! Anybody got dysphemism? Yield to fear, anyone?"

Nester thought the reference to Joe the Plumber was a dysphemism for Class Warfare.
22 posted on 10/16/2008 8:33:25 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Loyolas Mattman
the spread of secondary and latterly tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well-developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. - Peter Medawar
23 posted on 10/16/2008 8:36:09 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (You can't keep blaming yourself. Just blame yourself once, and move on. -- Homer Simpson)
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To: Loyolas Mattman
Joe is clearly an expert on his own situation. However, Joe is not an expert in tax policy, per se.

That's true. But he didn't claim to be, and as far as I know wasn't presented as one. He clearly spoke only to the issues he was qualified to - his own situation and how Obama's proposals would affect it.

24 posted on 10/16/2008 8:36:40 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: steve-b

What a fantastic way to teach critical thinking skills!


25 posted on 10/16/2008 8:40:17 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: AndyJackson

You are correct. If the teacher knew what he/she was doing, I think that this would be an excellent exercise.


26 posted on 10/16/2008 8:40:27 AM PDT by twigs
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To: tacticalogic

Right, and that’s why “Appeal to Expert” is a wrong answer.

Let’s put it this way. At the end of the night, the kid had every box on his sheet checked off. He clearly had a quick trigger. Must have really wanted those free M&M’s.


27 posted on 10/16/2008 8:49:51 AM PDT by Loyolas Mattman ("Oh, God Love Ya'...Stand Up for Chuck!!!" - Joe Biden)
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To: MississippiMan
Critical Thinking class? LOL! They can't have that, can we? This is just an example of propaganda masked as Critical Thinking.
Actually, I truly believe Critical thinking and Logic should be taught as core K-12 subjects, along with reading, english and math.
28 posted on 10/16/2008 8:51:27 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (The day begins and ends in Alaska.)
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To: steve-b

Logic was the most helpful class I took in college. It helped me understand my distrust of the popular news media.


29 posted on 10/16/2008 9:02:03 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Let's cut the socialist media's head off!)
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To: steve-b

Oh, Geez! They said Obama is not prone to fallacy??


30 posted on 10/16/2008 9:03:05 AM PDT by imskylark
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To: Ditto
In reality, Obama and the Marxists want to take the hard-earned wealth
and feed it to a corrupt entrenched Washington bureaucracy
and have the rest of us scrambling and begging favor with them
to get the small percentage that the bureaucrats do not consume.


Reagan said (in so many words) that
the job of a bureaucracy was "to grow the bureaucracy".
(and, I might add, deliver increasingly poor service at increasingly
higher, even astronomical, cost to the extorted taxpayer)

I do remember seeing an analysis of "where the tax dollar goes"
when feed through the system to deliver welfare to the masses.
It was a decade or so ago, so I can't remember the exact percentage
that "vanished" into the bureaucracies that handled OUR dollars,
but it was something like 50-70%.

Obama's greatest hope is to win in 2012 by an even larger margin...
as he pushes the USA beyond a tipping point when most of the
country is un/under-employed and MUST beg for more entitlements
from the US treasury.
Even if they have to run the money-printing press have to run
24/7/365.
And 366 days in leap years.
31 posted on 10/16/2008 9:11:23 AM PDT by VOA
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Obama and Biden Have Clear Pro-Abortion Litmus Test for Supreme Court
32 posted on 10/16/2008 9:32:30 AM PDT by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: MississippiMan

Well, that could be a thinly disguised appeal to the masses. But then again, Obama brought him up as a representative of the average man and McCain twisted Obama’s logical fallacy over to help McCain rather than Obama. Not logical, but effective.


33 posted on 10/16/2008 9:48:15 AM PDT by TypeZoNegative (Pro life & Vegan because I respect all life, Republican because our enemies don't respect ours.)
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To: Sisku Hanne

I must say Critical Thinking was a genuinely useful college class. I don’t remember all the proper jargon for tearing down nonsensical arguments and statements, but the red light in my head flashes like a strobe when Obama opens his mouth.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone who can talk as long as Obama does while saying nothing. The man is intellectually vacuous.

Finally, I’d love to see a “time of possession” breakdown of the debates. It seems to me that Obama really hogs the clock with his ramblings.

Really finally, I am shocked to admit that last night’s questions were certainly the best and fairest I’ve seen in any of the debates. I found little fault with Schieffer’s moderation.

MM


34 posted on 10/16/2008 9:55:29 AM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: steve-b

bmflr


35 posted on 10/16/2008 7:15:00 PM PDT by Kevmo (I love that sound and please let that baby keep on crying. ~Sarah Palin)
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