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Meltdowns and Myths: Did Deregulation Cause the Financial Crisis?
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Posted on 10/23/2008 8:09:39 AM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan

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1 posted on 10/23/2008 8:09:39 AM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

No greedee no regulatee. The fox is loose in the hen house.


2 posted on 10/23/2008 8:16:32 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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3 posted on 10/23/2008 8:18:42 AM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Total BS. Wall St ran wild. So did hedge funds. They need better regulation. Chris Cox was a brain dead stooge who didn’t ban naked shorts and get rid of uptick rule.
The Wall St firms are mostly run by Democrats and Bush should have been stricter with these anarchists

The Dems are 100% responsible for the Fannie Mae mess and some belong in prison


4 posted on 10/23/2008 8:21:05 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: do the dhue

LOL, great caption!


5 posted on 10/23/2008 8:26:16 AM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan (I am defiantly proud of being part of the Religious Right in America.)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

It is obvious that it was not the failed ?Bush policies,” but rather policies initiated in the Clinton administration that decoupled lending from credit worthiness to allow the poor to own houses too. It was policies that ignored sound business sense.


6 posted on 10/23/2008 8:28:34 AM PDT by marsh2
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Did Deregulation Cause the Financial Crisis?

No!!! This crisis was a deliberate act of sabotage by the democrats and the left in America.

7 posted on 10/23/2008 8:29:04 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: dennisw; do the dhue
The candidate running for Representative in my district [VA 5th] is gaining steam and is close to beating my conservative Rep by using ads that state that the fault was Bush and "his gang" (including McCain) in Congress that "didn't regulate Wall Street and the greedy bankers"

This lie appears to work on the stupid electorate. I'm wondering how well the Obama ads that claim "McCain will tax the old folks social security and take away their Medicare" that I hearrd this morning?

Lies seem to work...especially when the MSM promote them.

8 posted on 10/23/2008 8:29:37 AM PDT by KriegerGeist (I'm now considered a "Bitter Clinger" to my guns and religion.)
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To: KriegerGeist
Lies seem to work...especially when the MSM promote them.

Big lies work better than small lies.

9 posted on 10/23/2008 8:31:10 AM PDT by NRG1973
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To: dennisw

yes. dems are responable for this mess. what i would like to know is why voters dont care?


10 posted on 10/23/2008 8:43:29 AM PDT by dalebert
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I also call total BS.

The Repeal of Glass-Steagall, introduced and pushed by the Republicans and passed by a bipartisan majority and signed by Clinton allowed banks to take on more risk. That one post Glass-Steagall bank has acquired another post Glass-Steagall bank for pennies on the dollar in no way implies that repeal of Glass-Steagall mitigated the crisis.

The lowering of reserve rates to historic lows and the exemption of many deposits from reserve requirements allowed banks to become more leveraged. I’m not sure when this happened or what administration is at fault. But clearly this is a form of “deregulation” that helped bring on the crisis.


11 posted on 10/23/2008 8:43:51 AM PDT by DannyTN (`)
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To: Conservative Coulter Fan

Nope.


12 posted on 10/23/2008 8:45:21 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: KriegerGeist
The candidate running for Representative in my district [VA 5th] is gaining steam and is close to beating my conservative Rep by using ads that state that the fault was Bush and "his gang" (including McCain) in Congress that "didn't regulate Wall Street and the greedy bankers"

It's true to a certain extent. But who runs Wall St? I say anarchist Democrats run the large firms. Derivatives and credit default swaps are anarchy. Wall St contributions to Hillary Clinton were sky high

This lie appears to work on the stupid electorate. I'm wondering how well the Obama ads that claim "McCain will tax the old folks social security and take away their Medicare" that I heard this morning?

Sure lies work and they'll never pin the blame for Fannie Mae on the Democrats. This economic disaster has many of its causes in Fannie Mae

Lies seem to work...especially when the MSM promote them.

My take is Democrats are 70% responsible for this crisis.

13 posted on 10/23/2008 8:46:35 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: ex-snook

The mortgage and thrift industry was never “de-regulated” in the sense that there was no oversight - the oversight was just of a different variety than “good and prudent” review of the compliance with regulation. Instead, there was a directive sent down, with the benediction of certain Members of Congress and the Senate, DEMANDING the underwriting be loosened so person who NEVER could have qualified for a loan, could then be accepted.

There was PLENTY or regulation and oversight - just not the right kind.


14 posted on 10/23/2008 8:49:55 AM PDT by alloysteel (For me, the election is over. I voted early for Sarah.)
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To: DannyTN
The Repeal of Glass-Steagall, introduced and pushed by the Republicans and passed by a bipartisan majority and signed by Clinton allowed banks to take on more risk. That one post Glass-Steagall bank has acquired another post Glass-Steagall bank for pennies on the dollar in no way implies that repeal of Glass-Steagall mitigated the crisis.

Blame that dumb ass libertarian Phil Gramm who is now a mega lobbyist for the finance sector. Plus Jim Leach who was a Republican and now supports Obama. Democrat Bill Clinton happily signed the bill and it had Democrat sponors too. The vote was very lopsided passing it

The lowering of reserve rates to historic lows and the exemption of many deposits from reserve requirements allowed banks to become more leveraged. I’m not sure when this happened or what administration is at fault. But clearly this is a form of “deregulation” that helped bring on the crisis

Blame the derivative called "credit default swaps" which allowed capital to be freed up that was once mandated to be kept in reserve against losses on loans etc. This capital was then deployed to make the lousy bets the taxpayer is now supposed to make good on.

Credit default swaps should have been clamped down on ages ago
"Free markets" are bs when the taxpayer is forced to bail out participants making high stakes bets. Lehman made bets on borrowed money using 30 to 1 leverage

15 posted on 10/23/2008 8:55:24 AM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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“introduced and pushed by the Republicans and passed by a bipartisan majority”

I Call BS...

Glass-Steagal was the brain-child of ROBERT RUBIN, Robert Reich, and $200 Million in CITI money thrown around to allow the Citi/Smith-Barney merger...

RUBIN was rewarded with a board seat at CITI for his efforts, and later became Chairman of the Executive Board.

This was a DEMOCRAT creation, and CITI used tons of money to buy whoever they needed to, in getting it done.


16 posted on 10/23/2008 8:57:46 AM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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Excerpt from http://www.newsweek.com/id/161199

JPMorgan bankers were trying to get their heads around a question as old as banking itself: how do you mitigate your risk when you loan money to someone? By the mid-’90s, JPMorgan’s books were loaded with tens of billions of dollars in loans to corporations and foreign governments, and by federal law it had to keep huge amounts of capital in reserve in case any of them went bad. But what if JPMorgan could create a device that would protect it if those loans defaulted, and free up that capital?

What the bankers hit on was a sort of insurance policy: a third party would assume the risk of the debt going sour, and in exchange would receive regular payments from the bank, similar to insurance premiums. JPMorgan would then get to remove the risk from its books and free up the reserves. The scheme was called a “credit default swap,” and it was a twist on something bankers had been doing for a while to hedge against fluctuations in interest rates and commodity prices. While the concept had been floating around the markets for a couple of years, JPMorgan was the first bank to make a big bet on credit default swaps. It built up a “swaps” desk in the mid-’90s and hired young math and science grads from schools like MIT and Cambridge to create a market for the complex instruments. Within a few years, the credit default swap (CDS) became the hot financial instrument, the safest way to parse out risk while maintaining a steady return. “I’ve known people who worked on the Manhattan Project,” says Mark Brickell, who at the time was a 40-year-old managing director at JPMorgan. “And for those of us on that trip, there was the same kind of feeling of being present at the creation of something incredibly important.”

Like Robert Oppenheimer and his team of nuclear physicists in the 1940s, Brickell and his JPMorgan colleagues didn’t realize they were creating a monster.


17 posted on 10/23/2008 9:00:04 AM PDT by listenhillary (Should we turn Alaska or Texas into our Galt's Gulch?)
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To: tcrlaf
I don't know what you are calling BS on. Gramm Leach Bliley were all three Republicans. It was Republicans that introduced it to congress. See link.

Repeal of Glass-Steagall

18 posted on 10/23/2008 9:03:36 AM PDT by DannyTN (`)
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I MEANT GLB, Not Steagall....

My bad...


19 posted on 10/23/2008 9:07:36 AM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: alloysteel

Methinks blaming the home buyer defaults for the collapse of the world’s banking system is a bridge too far. The problem seems to be the capacity of the bankers along the upline to repackage debts as assets leveraging a lot more creative financing to kick further down the road.

Like an old story of three farmers and one horse. It seems they took turns in selling the horse to each other at increasing amounts and they were all getting rich on the profits. Unfortunately the horse died.


20 posted on 10/23/2008 9:08:15 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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