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The DUI Exception to the Constitution
DUI Blog ^ | 2005 | Lawrence Taylor (not the Linebacker)

Posted on 12/31/2008 2:53:07 PM PST by Ron Jeremy

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To: relictele

I don’t drink and drive even after one or two drinks, as there would be a good chance that I’d lose my job (and become unemployable) after a conviction. Also, I have no respect for drunk drivers. Being in my mid-20s I enjoy a good party, but one of the things that always goes through my head before I go out is “How am I going to get home without getting behind a wheel?” It’s not a toughy... either stay home or fork over money for a cab.

That all said, MADD is a neo-prohibitionist movement that is populated by nanny-state liberals. Former employees have said that for many of these women its not a common-sense approach to drunk driving, its all out prohibition. Most of the leadership in that organization are women who have lost family members to drunk drivers, which tends to add emotion over logic in their arguments. The reason why MADD has a voice is because unlike other issues like abortion, it’s hard to find an angle on this issue without sounding like you’re pro-drunk driving.


41 posted on 12/31/2008 3:38:31 PM PST by ERJCaptain
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To: All
I have to agree I do not like the trend here - instead of harshly dealing with criminals the state will “police” everyone’s behavior. Just like England we will soon have camera's watching every street.

I'm no libertarian. You want to solve this problem? Death for DUI - first conviction. Well, maybe 40 licks with a cane for the first offense and death for the second. Virtually no one will drink and drive any more. Immediate end of the problem.

People who drink and drive are scum.

42 posted on 12/31/2008 3:39:04 PM PST by Uhaul (Time to water the tree of liberty...)
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To: relictele
Beware the righteous indignation of the aggrieved American Housewife!
43 posted on 12/31/2008 3:41:16 PM PST by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: Congressman Billybob

The Constitution guarantees very few rights, and even those it does guarantee are trampled.
I always thought the purpose of the Constitution was to limit the powers of the federal government, not to limit the rights of the citizens. Silly me
Jack


44 posted on 12/31/2008 3:43:10 PM PST by btcusn
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To: Congressman Billybob
The Constitution guarantees NO ONE the right to get behind the wheel.

Funny, I thought the Constitution outlined what the GOVERNMENT could not do.

BTW if revoking your driving eliminates your pursuit of happiness the court is in Direct violation of the Constitution.

45 posted on 12/31/2008 3:43:45 PM PST by eyedigress
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To: DLfromthedesert
One glass of wine does not make one INTOXICATED!!!

In the eyes of the law it can. In Michigan (and most other states, I think) you can be convicted of drunk driving even with a BAC of 0.0.

If the arresting officer testifies he believed you were under the influence, the testimony is sufficient for the arrest and admissible at trial.

46 posted on 12/31/2008 3:44:01 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: Ron Jeremy; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ...

Everyone should read this - drinker or not.


47 posted on 12/31/2008 3:44:11 PM PST by xcamel (The urge to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it. - H. L. Mencken)
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To: nobama08
So are you against the checkpoints or arresting people for DWI?

I am against checkpoints.. just as I am against random home searches. I am not against arresting people who commit crimes.

48 posted on 12/31/2008 3:45:10 PM PST by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Living in government subsidized housing is a privilege not a right. Does that mean that a tenant living in a government project gives up is constitutional rights? Do the police have the right to search the gov. subsidized housing unit without a warrant?


49 posted on 12/31/2008 3:47:51 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: SamAdams76

If you weren’t under the influence, then you shouldn’t have had an issue with the tests. You could have walked the line and passed the Breathalyzer.


50 posted on 12/31/2008 3:48:53 PM PST by ConservativeMind (What's "Price Gouging"? Should government force us to sell to the 15th highest bidder on eBay?)
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To: CharacterCounts

So why bother having laws? Just give carte blanche to police, and burn the Constitition.


51 posted on 12/31/2008 3:49:05 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: ConservativeMind

The Breathalyzers give false readings; I guess you didn’t bother to read the article; that’s OK if you don’t bother to comment.


52 posted on 12/31/2008 3:51:08 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Congressman Billybob

One does not forfeit one’s consitutional rights by driving a car.

Driving a car is practically necessary to make a living and function in this country (especially rurally).

While such an important “PRIVILEGE” is at stake, my constitutional rights should be fiercely protetected by a decent judicial system.

Your argument makes no sense to me.


53 posted on 12/31/2008 3:51:57 PM PST by Kinzua (No Bailout -- time to set things right)
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To: Ron Jeremy

From what I understand, DWI/license checks are constitutional. Remember - driving has been ruled a privilege and not a right. Not the same as “home as castle” doctrine.


54 posted on 12/31/2008 3:52:07 PM PST by nobama08
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To: ConservativeMind
If you weren’t under the influence, then you shouldn’t have had an issue with the tests.

If you are not hiding drugs in your house, you shouldn't have an issue with a warrantless search.

55 posted on 12/31/2008 3:52:59 PM PST by CharacterCounts (1984 was supposed to be a work of fiction, not a how-to manual.)
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To: BAW
Seig Heil!

/s

56 posted on 12/31/2008 3:53:06 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: ConservativeMind
Seig Heil!

/s

57 posted on 12/31/2008 3:53:49 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; ...

Howdy -—

This is a touchy one. One of those damned if you do, damned if you don’t type issues. Anything said against MADD or some of the assinine DUI laws make one appear as if they are proponents of DUI.

I absolutely despise MADD and what they have become, even though the beginnings of the organization were good and noble. Of course I’m not the only one that feels that way -— even one of the founders walked away in disgust.

Then when you add in the fact that MADD is now controlled by the RWJF, anyone on this list who knows me understands exactly my immense hatred of MADD.

With all of that said, Happy New Year all, and please be smart about consuming adult beverages tonight.


58 posted on 12/31/2008 3:54:38 PM PST by Gabz (Happy New Year)
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To: Uhaul
People who drink and drive are scum.

Even after one drink?

59 posted on 12/31/2008 3:55:17 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: decimon
Candy Lightner.

Didn't she end up with a couple of DUI convictios herself?

60 posted on 12/31/2008 3:56:41 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry)
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