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Obama: Economy plan means lower power bills
msnbc/ap ^ | 24 Jan

Posted on 01/24/2009 5:59:10 AM PST by flowerplough

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To: flowerplough

I’m beginning to fear that Obama is mentally ill.


21 posted on 01/24/2009 7:13:39 AM PST by pabianice
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To: bergmeid

90 ports?...Name them!!..And the shortcomning they now have.


22 posted on 01/24/2009 7:17:51 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: pabianice

I have suggested from the beginning that he is on and has been on meds for a long time...Hence, no medical report..Not that they would write it up anyways.


23 posted on 01/24/2009 7:19:54 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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To: flowerplough

Alternative energy, no matter what form will raise electric rates!

He’s a fool, liar, and an idiot!


24 posted on 01/24/2009 7:28:18 AM PST by dalereed
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To: autumnraine
I’m starting to think Obama’s plan is more nefarious in an outright attempt to bankrupt us completely so we will be prime for Communism or Islam. One of the two.

Or a combination of both.

He and whoever owns him want to strike at the heart of capitalism, so expect to see the financial system become essentially nationalized.

25 posted on 01/24/2009 8:15:49 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: JudgemAll
"More power lines? Like saying more wheels on my truck saves on gas money... Yet another pork bridge to nowhere."

Do not allow any jobs for White Males though.

Stimulus money will go only to Democrat voters.

26 posted on 01/24/2009 8:21:19 AM PST by blam
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To: flowerplough
President Barack Obama on Saturday laid out more pieces of an economic plan he says would add 3,000 miles of electrical lines, increase security at 90 ports and double the United States' renewable energy capacity within three years.

Bullsh!t. Three thousand miles is less than once across America. The real life distribution grid is up and down streets and alleys, across mountain ranges, down country roads with laterals up canyons and across farm fields. Three thousand miles is like spit on a hot sidewalk. It will disappear while you are looking.

Doubling renewable energy capacity in three years ain't gonna happen. It is amazing how the pinhead class thinks that by virtue of an election they are now adequately educated to pontificate on anything and everything. Renewable energy, overall, requires subsidies to keep producers afloat. Eventually the law of diminishing returns catches up to you. Why spend $10 to get $5 worth of energy?

Less than a week of listening to the charlatan, and my head is already to explode.

27 posted on 01/24/2009 8:31:30 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats, the party of evil. Republicans, the party of stupid.)
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To: pabianice
I’m beginning to fear that Obama is mentally ill.

If he really believes this BS, then he's delusional.

28 posted on 01/24/2009 8:39:21 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: Thermalseeker
I'm not saying that we don't need to update the grid.

Or locate new power plants closer to the point of use (major cities) to reduce transmission losses. California needs to do this, but they won't. They'll just whine for more federal intervention to remedy their self-inflicted limitations.

29 posted on 01/24/2009 8:47:21 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: flowerplough

Let’s review.

We are going to install generation that costs twice as much as conventional technology. We are going to double the installed base from 2% of our power to maybe 4%.

That new generation capacity is highly dispersed across the landscape. To get the power to the market will require massive investment in thousands of miles of new transmission line capacity that is not required with conventional power sources.

And this is going to lower our energy prices. Only a lawyer communist with zero economics or engineering training would believe that. This approach is as likely to lower power prices as having magical unicorns running endlessly on treadmills.


30 posted on 01/24/2009 8:52:48 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: autumnraine
I’m starting to think Obama’s plan is more nefarious in an outright attempt to bankrupt us completely so we will be prime for Communism...

I have believed this from the day he announced he was running. In the 30s, much of the populace was fighting for communism believing it was the solution to failed capitalism. I believe they are intentionally replaying that script.

31 posted on 01/24/2009 8:55:48 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
There is no way on Earth to build 3,000 miles of power lines within three years. It won't happen.

Damn Straight! You probably can't get the DESIGN done in three years. Then you'll be fighting the environmentalists for at least a decade. Then another few years for construction. Realistically, you're looking at 15 to 20 years in today's business, environmental and regulatory climate. This country has completely lost the "can do" spirit that once made us great.

32 posted on 01/24/2009 8:59:17 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: flowerplough

Obama could power the new plants with all of Planned Parenthood’s aborted babies. There’s a renewable resource readily available.


33 posted on 01/24/2009 9:55:33 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Sacajaweau

DemoRATS’ traditional beef has been that we don’t check containers enough.


34 posted on 01/24/2009 10:39:36 AM PST by bergmeid (2012 - someone please fast forward.)
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To: Thermalseeker
"I'm not saying that we don't need to update the grid."

Why would we need new power lines and an update of the grid? The Democrats are going to shut down the coal-fired utilities, refuse to allow us to drill for gas and oil, and never build another nuclear plant. The grid is more than adequate for Boone Picken's and Nancy Pelosi's windmills and the solar expansion which is all that will remain for power generation.

It's like all the highways they plan to build for the plug-in cars that there will be no electricity to run.

35 posted on 01/24/2009 12:11:30 PM PST by penowa
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To: flowerplough
Yeah, right. He's going to push all this construction to accomodate spotty renewable power supply, and yet power bills will go down? Look at where the retail price of power is the lowest - coal country. Why? Because despite the government's best efforts so far, coal is still cheap. Nuclear is inexpensive to operate as well and rivals the best coal plants.

Of course, the government doesn't want either - they want what brings the biggest return from their own private investments. Pelosi's heavily invested in T. Boone Picken's outfit. I'd like to see some of the other Senator's investments.

36 posted on 01/24/2009 12:18:25 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
There is no way on Earth to build 3,000 miles of power lines within three years.

Actually, if you look at all the capacity additions to the transmission system already under way, I would say that it's not too far off from 3000 miles. That's only 100 projects of 30 miles each, or two projects per state.

37 posted on 01/24/2009 12:27:57 PM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: pabianice
I’m beginning to fear that Obama is mentally ill.

I'm not ready to go that far yet, but he definitely comes from the dictum that "If you can't dazzle 'em with brilliance, baffle 'em with Bullsh*t.

38 posted on 01/24/2009 3:07:12 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: RSmithOpt

He has no policy except being childlishly anti-anything that Bush or the GOP would bring up so far. It’s going to be a hodgepodge of nuisances (at best) he is going come up with so as to hurt us. The man not only lacks character but sadly the very charisma and clever character the media tried to ascribe to him.


39 posted on 01/24/2009 4:24:32 PM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: RSmithOpt

.... or the “me too cartridge president”...

I wonder if he is going to nuke someone, like Mao thought it would make him bigger and badder emperor than previous ones if he killed more under his rule than under the Golden Hordes or some Ming dynasty.


40 posted on 01/24/2009 4:27:00 PM PST by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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