[Man50D]

"Anybody toting guns and stripping moose don't care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks. So, you just think this through."

This is how the socialist left defines "emergencies". They want to create detention camps for American citizens and thwart their freedom of speech if they defy socialism while a the same time insisting Gitmo be closed.

[Man50D]

IMHO the following provision in the bill is the key.

(f) Cooperative Agreement for Joint Use of Existing Military Installations- If an existing military installation other than a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Defense shall enter into a cooperative agreement to provide for the establishment of the national emergency center.

This provision will allow BO and the socialists in Congress to close military bases consequently removing them from the military authority and thereby weakening the military,ending free speech and creating a stronger centralized form of government.

[Waco]

Choips like a joick, don’t he?

[WilliamofCarmichael]

Rep. Hastings has been trying for a few years.

"Under Representative Hastings' legislation, National Emergency Centers would be located on military bases with a preference wherever possible for those installations closed during the most recent Base Realignment and Closures (BRAC) Commission recommendations."

That was H.R. 1796 in 2007

.. and again this year. Two sources

Here

and here. H. R. 645 22 Jan. 2009

I guess it's all how you think these camps can be used. Ostensibly these are to have facilities ready in case of another Katrina. Hmm, I wonder if my freezing hillbilly kin would be allowed in -- even if they did not vote for Obama.

[SatinDoll]

I hope this will help folks here to understand what is happening and perhaps why Congressman Hastings has proposed this legislation.

Yesterday a blog called Market-ticker.org, written by Karl Denninger, posted the referenced article below (I’ve provided a pertinent excerpt). He predicts that our nation is on the edge of a complete financial collapse. You can bet that our government knows that too.

There are three generations of welfare families living in inner cities which have relied on that check in the mail, and they’ll be desperate when the money no longer comes to them. Our government is bankrupt - there is no money in its coffers and borrowing from abroad will not help.

Read this article and understand what is happening. Do not despair but be prepared.

“Here It Comes”, by Karl Denninger, Saturday, Jan. 31, 2009
http://market-ticker.org/
(excerpt)
“Government must be prepared to provide the basic necessities of life for at least five to ten million Americans and possibly as many as fifty-million - one in six. As I have noted before this means barracks-style places to sleep, food, clothing and basic medical care. HUNGRY, HOMELESS AND UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE ARE DANGEROUS.”

(view Free Republic’s posting on this discussion) here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2175802/posts

[Arizona Carolyn]

I guess this is the excuse the are giving for this -- but remember the little brownshirts he plants to unleash in lieu of the military...and don't think, if he manages to sink us into a depression, people won't volunteer.

*********************************************** http://gto7.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/if-a-dirty-bomb-goes-off-in-a-neighborhood-near-you/

[quote] If a Dirty Bomb Goes off in a Neighborhood Near You . . .

January 30, 2009

Don't you Feel Safe Now?

Go to your local Emergency Center established on a military base. HR 645, known as the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act sponsored by Rep. Hastings, will create and ” provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due an emergency or major disaster,” to the tune of 180 million the first year.

Take a read for yourself and let me know what you think of this bill! I am not sure I want to place the security and sustenance of my family in the hands of Big Bubby! America has always had natural disasters and Americans, being as resourceful as they are, have always gotten through it. Why would we need the government to set up “camps” to take care of us now? Why not leave these issues in our hands?

At the end of World War I, America suffered through during the third greatest plague in the history of mankind taking over 21 million lives world wide. It was known as the Spanish Flu of 1918, where about 550,000 Americans died in a 16 week period. We got through it without “camps” based on military bases!

Do not forget that it was the military service men and women who suffered the worse during this pandemic because they were locked on a military base in such close and contagious quarters!

World War II, FDR set up “camps” on military bases to provide “temporary housing, and medical,” to Americans of Japanese descent. We’re still screaming about that!

DO NOT TRUST THE GOVERNMENT. If I were you, I would remember how the Katrina disaster was dealt with by FEMA and then prep your own family! You are ultimately responsible for your own life, and not big bubby! Then call your representatives and demand they vote NO on this potentially disastrous bill that can seriously infringe on your Rights and Freedoms.[/quote]

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP

[John123]

Rep. Alcee L. Hastings

I propose to create this "detention" place right next door to Rep. Hasting's residence...

[oldenuff2no]

It looks to me that when they come knocking on the door you might as well lock and load. You have nothing to lose.

[LucyT]

Thanks, stockpirate.

Bill creates detention camps in U.S. for ‘emergencies’

What about Gitmo? Ping to thread, and links to-keep-you-awake:

#75

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2175022/posts?page=75#75

#87

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2175022/posts?page=87#87

#114

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2175022/posts?page=114#114

#127 & 177 Maps:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2175022/posts?page=127#127

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2175022/posts?page=177#177

#193

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2175022/posts?page=193#193

[paratrooper82]

Please, is there any Americans left in this great Country of ours who does not see the coming revolution and bloodshed? I mean really now, keep your powder dry, God knows we all will need it sooner than later!

[rfreedom4u]

I sent the wnd link to CNN, Fox, MSNBC and Rush. I also sent it to my family and friends. This can’t happen.

[Force of Truth]

I’ve heard there have been covert plans out there for years to stick the Christians in concentration camps.

[TADSLOS]

Ping.

[FreeManN]

I wonder how Bob the BO’s lawyer will answer to this?

PHONE: 202.628.6600

Robert (Bob) Bauer is currently counsel to Obama for America and the Democratic Senatorial and Congressional Campaign Committees, and has served as co-counsel to the New Hampshire State Senate in the trial of Chief Justice David A. Brock (2000).

607 Fourteenth Street N.W. Washington, D.C. 20005-2003

PHONE: 202.628.6600 FAX: 202.434.1690

[LibertyRocks]

This is one of the things I was upset with George Bush about during his last year in office. He should have known better than to leave something in place that his successor could use to their advantage to gain control in ANY way over the people, and take away ANY part of their rights. Heck, he should’ve known better than to craft those in the first place — a politician who doesn’t think about something far enough in the future to anticipate some of these types of “unintended consequences” shouldn’t be making these types of decisions. They should be thinking a little harder, IMHO.

[I don’t, frankly, see why the President would need this power in an emergency in a HUGE way. He should have the power of the Federal Government as it exists, right now, and that’s it. The Executive Branch should not be trying to increase it’s power base otherwise checks and balances do not have a chance of working as they should.]

Now, don’t get me wrong. I am not “blaming Bush” entirely, obviously Obama is the dictator who is using these laws against the people (or would), but even the most sincere of people can create problems for the future if they are not careful. Bush may not have abused the directive, and genuinely thought it was good, but now Obama will use this to exert more power — and that’s a very bad thing.

Incidentally, it’s the same thing that is wrong with Socialist policies. They hand too much power to one branch, and one person, and one party, really. And, for instance, even if Obama DIDN’T abuse this legislation against the people, someone in the future would... It’s only human nature...

This is frustrating. Why don’t people learn? It’s not as if this hasn’t been “done before” in history...

[Dustbunny]

They need to fix up Alcatraz and use it for terrorists.

[sionnsar]

What do you think of bill to create detention camps in U.S. for 'emergencies'? (1995 votes)

It is now more than clear the federal government is rapidly goose-stepping its way toward tyranny	36% (718)
Hello?! Does Nazi Germany ring any bells?	35% (702)
There's little doubt the government would use such camps for malicious purposes on its own citizens	11% (217)
There are intended harmful consequences couched under the guise of preparedness	5% (107)
If the bill is from the nutcase congressman Alcee Hastings, you know it's a bad idea	5% (106)
This is what we get with Democrats in control, and I don't like it one bit	4% (81)
I see both benefits and dangers in this idea. It's a tough call	1% (23)
While the bill sounds good, there could be unintended consequences harmful to Americans	1% (18)
Other	1% (13)
Great idea. We need to be ready to respond to emergencies	0% (5)
We can never be prepared enough for disasters, so this is very pragmatic	0% (5)
Everything seems kosher in the bill's language, so I think it's fine	0% (0)

[FreeManN]

I wonder how Bob the BO’s lawyer will answer to this?

PHONE: 202.628.6600

Robert (Bob) Bauer is currently counsel to Obama for America and the Democratic Senatorial and Congressional Campaign Committees, and has served as co-counsel to the New Hampshire State Senate in the trial of Chief Justice David A. Brock (2000).

607 Fourteenth Street N.W. Washington, D.C. 20005-2003

PHONE: 202.628.6600 FAX: 202.434.1690

[FreeManN]

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[FreeManN]

Citizen’s grand juries

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