No Tolerance Allowed: Stein declines university speech after 'hundreds' of angry emails

ICR ^ | February 9, 2009 | Christine Dao

[GodGunsGuts]

LOL. Sometimes I respond as I go. Big mistake in this case. And although I have never been tested, don’t be so hard on my ADD, it has kept me single-mindedly interested in many subjects long enough to at least understand the basics. I will be the first to admit my basic understanding of science gets me into trouble, and often causes me to fall into some pretty big holes. But I have to say, my understanding of the same is all the better once I figure out how to crawl back out of it :o)

[allmendream]

Yes, it is obvious you have trouble with the basics. I recommend any book you can find on molecular biology. It is really quite fascinating stuff.

Although he DOES talk a bit about evolution (if you think all species are descended from primordial “kinds” that could all fit on a boat, you certainly believe in SOME kind of evolution (and at a rate hundreds of times what biologists claim)); you might like the book “GENOME” by Matt Ridley.

GENOME by Matt Ridley

http://www.amazon.com/Genome-Matt-Ridley/dp/0060932902

[GodGunsGuts]

I will purchase it in your honor. Come to think of it, I just purchased a $200 dollar graduate-level textbook on epigenetics that I can’t understand. Surely that should count for something?

[GodGunsGuts]

PS Is this book going to be filled with acronyms that cause me to spend hours looking up stuff from paragraph to paragraph, or does the author explain things on a layman’s level as he goes?

[allmendream]

Ouch. Which one?

I would have loved to have taken a course in epigenetics but none was ever offered at any of the Universities I attended. Fascinating stuff.

My favorite book on Molecular Biology is Lehninger’s “Principles of Biochemistry”. A friend of mine used it for any class on the subject rather than buying the text they recommended. It is meant for a graduate student in Biology, but they explain everything in basic language.

“Eukaryotic Transcription Control” was a good one as well, with the added bonus that it is SHORT and CHEAP (reminds me of this bird I once knew!;)), but written for a graduate student in Biology.

I'll find that one for you, I think I have it at work.

[allmendream]

It is written for the layman, not with acronyms or names for molecular structures that you have never heard of.

I read the first page on Amazon and you are going to disagree with the timeline given on the very first page, but just forge ahead undaunted and read about the science and the scientists. I think you will enjoy it, and you cannot help but learn from it; I read it twice I enjoyed it so much (once many moons ago, and again recently).

[GodGunsGuts]

==Ouch. Which one?

This one:

http://www.amazon.com/Epigenetics-C-David-Allis/dp/0879697245/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/192-8948985-5412754?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234406138&sr=8-1

I thought I was buying an introductory textbook on the subject, but they obviously assume that you have spent a great deal of time understanding the basics. It is shelved until I can find something more basic to get me ready for the big time.

==My favorite book on Molecular Biology Lehninger’s “Principles of Biochemistry”.

Then that is the book I will start with.

==I would have loved to have taken a course in epigenetics but none was ever offered at any of the Universities I attended. Fascinating stuff.

I did however read an interesting popular-level book on epigenetics, etc (even though they took great pains to distance epigenetics from creation science). Have you heard of it?:

http://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Four-Dimensions-Epigenetic-Philosophical/dp/0262600692/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4/192-8948985-5412754?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234406138&sr=8-4

Also, I have found a fascinating site devoted mostly to book and paper reviews on a variety of scientific subjects, to include creation/evolution here:

http://home.planet.nl/~gkorthof/index.htm

I don’t agree with the site-owner re: the direction he is taking with respect to a “new evolutionary synthesis”, but I find it a fairly cutting edge source re: the “new biology.”

[chuck_the_tv_out]

“darwinists can’t stand debate”

Hi - what don’t you understand?

[allmendream]

Lehninger’s “Principles of Biochemistry” is good, but I just found my BEST textbook on Molecular Biology and that is “Molecular Cell Biology” by Lodish and Baltimore.

It was actually THAT book that my friend used for any course on the subject rather than buying the text the instructor recommended (he got A's).

[GodGunsGuts]

Then Losish and Baltimore’s book is the one I will start with. Thanks for the tip—GGG