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Iran sets terms for U.S. ties
Yahoo news ^ | 3/22/09 | Fredrik Dahl

Posted on 03/22/2009 9:31:57 AM PDT by bill1952

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To: MinuteGal

How about “Obama, bama, bama, bama, bama chameleon....”


41 posted on 03/22/2009 5:33:56 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady
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To: bill1952

“President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has demanded Washington apologize for decades of “crimes” against Iran...”

And Chavez has called Obama an ignoramus...

Wow, Rodney Dangerfield gets more respect than Bambi has earned!


42 posted on 03/22/2009 5:38:41 PM PDT by Wisconsinlady
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To: bill1952

Yesterday this, http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2211836/posts

Today this thread.

Trusting Iran would be like inviting Charles Manson over for a slumber party. Everyone would wake up dead.

Iran has one main mission. The destruction of Israel.

The U.S. (and the rest of the world) needs to squeeze ‘em like a zit. Iran is a festering pus ball on the face of the planet.

I suppose it never hurts to talk. But keep the engines on the B-1’s running.


43 posted on 03/22/2009 5:48:25 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Negromancer !!! RUN for your lives !!!)
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To: G8 Diplomat

It’s not “some” Iranians, it’s 70%


Sorry, but I call BS. Please explain how one takes a reliable poll in Iran, especially on a sensitive topic like this. If you can’t explain this, then you really have no basis for the statement.

Maybe I’m dense, but it seems if it were that really that high, more pro-Western people would be in charge in Iran. Frankly, I don’t trust these (or similar) numbers when I hear them. My suspicion is that the Iranian regime exaggerates this so called support to persuade Western nations not to take action against it.


44 posted on 03/22/2009 5:56:39 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: rbg81

It came from this article: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1072-717362,00.html

It was an Iranian company, but nonetheless it is the youth who are pro-Western, and the young people make up 70% of the population (70% is under 30). Why would this make it more likely for a pro-Westerner to be in power? All candidates must be approved by the ayatollah. There’s no way he’d approve someone who likes the West. If you want to haggle over numbers, fine, suppose it isn’t as high as 70%. But ask anyone who knows the slightest thing about Iran—they will tell a large percentage of Iranian youth like America.


45 posted on 03/22/2009 7:05:35 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: wny
آدم احمق احمق
46 posted on 03/22/2009 7:09:47 PM PDT by Candor7 (The weapons of choice against fascism are ridicule, and derision. (member NRA)
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To: G8 Diplomat

If you have a situation where 70% of anyone is against the Government, you have a situation ripe for revolution. Of course, you might be confusing pro-Western sentiment (which can be just about anything) with support for the Government. It might be that some young Iranians like Bon-Jovi fine (in-private), but are still more than willing to live under a theocracy.

The crucial thing in my mind is that damage a nuclear Iran can do—which is considerable. That a significant percentage of young people have some form of pro-Western sentiment is a nice factoid, but very hard to exploit gvien the facts on the ground. I am afraid most people use this statistic to let the tail wag the dog.


47 posted on 03/22/2009 7:17:24 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Follow-up: I read the article and it was kind of vague. What company is this “state-owned” company? And what are the bonifides of the person who penned this article? Given the premise of the article is that the West should leave Iran alone (which is no doubt the position of the Mullahs), it calls into questions just what this guy’s agenda is. Again, for the response I stated in my first response, I am very leery of these poll numbers because the Regime could be using it as a lever point to influence public opinion in the West. After all, no want wants to intentionally hurt people who “like” them.

From your nicknmae, I assume you are a diplomat and are careful about not making face-value assumptions.


48 posted on 03/22/2009 7:23:19 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: rbg81

The regime is very harsh on dissent. Protesters are beaten and thrown in jail. The government is deliberately creating food shortages so that people have to wait in line for hours and can’t use that time for dissent. They considered making a rule that men can only leave the house on one day, and women on the next, and it alternates (except for Friday prayer) so that fewer people on the streets protesting and rousing rabble, but I don’t know if they actually put that into effect yet. They also considered another rule mandating that families must have four kids or more, to keep people busy raising children and not dissenting. But I also don’t know if that went into effect.

Again, most of the anti-regime types are students, and are more busy with school than trying to overthrow the government. But I have wondered why there haven’t been more large scale revolts in the past. You make a good point in the “wag the dog” comment. Maybe the CIA has officers working underground over there and can help stage a revolution like what they did against Mossadeq.


49 posted on 03/22/2009 7:27:00 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: rbg81

Actually I’m not a diplomat, I just chose the name because I joined on the day of the G8 summit in 06. I’m a college student.


50 posted on 03/22/2009 7:27:55 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (I'm learning Arabic, Farsi, Urdu, Pashtu, and Russian so someday you won't have to)
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To: G8 Diplomat

Actually I’m not a diplomat, I just chose the name because I joined on the day of the G8 summit in 06. I’m a college student.


OOps...there I was lecturing about face-value assumptions, and then I went and made one. :^)


51 posted on 03/22/2009 7:32:09 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: 4rcane
Obama should use the same diplomatic skill he used on the Republicans. Hey, we won, bend over. Republicans say, oh okay

Here, you might enjoy this vanity.

Cheers!

52 posted on 03/22/2009 9:31:18 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: wny
How do you say “clueless fool” in Farsi?

Same way as in English. TOTUS.

Cheers!

53 posted on 03/22/2009 9:32:20 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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54 posted on 03/23/2009 4:39:08 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: gwilhelm56
Exactly. You know you're in trouble when sh*theads like the Tehran mafia start setting terms for you. Terms are set by the ones in the driver's seat. Obama is the suckup supplicant.
55 posted on 03/23/2009 9:35:49 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

**Obama is the suckup supplicant.**

IF ZERO wants to go to IRAN ... he does it on his OWN DIME... NO taxpayer funds.. no Secret Service .. MORON deserves what he gets.


56 posted on 03/24/2009 6:15:15 AM PDT by gwilhelm56 (My 2nd amendment protects my 1st amendment... I carry a GUN because I can't Carry a SOLDIER!)
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To: bill1952

Maybe someone should have a “Tea Party” to address this. Maybe one in front of the WH, with signs that say, “Iran is invited for Tea”.


57 posted on 03/24/2009 11:08:55 AM PDT by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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