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‘Alger Hiss and the Battle for History’
New York Times ^ | May 10, 2009 | SUSAN JACOBY

Posted on 05/08/2009 11:12:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: redpoll
"not having Nuremberg-style trials for the Communists"

We almost did with the McCarthy hearings.

What the left never, ever will admit is that McCarthy was right. The State Department,and a big chunk of the Federal Government were infested with fellow travelers and outright spies for Soviet Russia.

This is yet another New York Times piece of disinformation.

Always remember when reading the Times that they still have Walter Duranty's Pulitzer on display. The man who helped cover up the Ukrainian starvation by Stalin.

21 posted on 05/09/2009 3:47:17 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Jimmy Valentine

“The State Dept. and a big chunk of the Federal Govt. were infested with fellow travelers and outright spies for Soviet Russia.”
And not a damn thing has changed. (Except it’s worse now. Even the Prez is involved!)


22 posted on 05/09/2009 3:54:23 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: nathanbedford

Great followup post NB...I can appreciate where you come from as far as times/family politics, mine were similar.
You, like many of the current day anti-Communism, do a lot to keep the freedom flame alive, thanks for your diligence.


23 posted on 05/09/2009 4:08:52 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: nickcarraway
Hiss himself was a political creature of the thirties, in that his left-wing political sympathies did not emerge before the Depression. Chambers, by contrast, embraced Bolshevism and joined the Party in 1925 — the midpoint of a decade of prosperity in which even the tiny minority of Americans with left-wing political views could not imagine a future for communism in this country. By moving to the left not in the twenties but in the thirties, Hiss followed an entirely conventional course, dictated both by the nation's economic crisis and by personal ambition, for intellectuals of his generation.

Obviously sympathetic to Hiss and other Communists.

24 posted on 05/09/2009 4:15:11 AM PDT by iowamark (certified by Michael Steele as "ugly and incendiary")
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To: nickcarraway
Hiss=UN
25 posted on 05/09/2009 4:38:38 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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To: nickcarraway

My “48 Liberal Lies About American History” will be released as a paperback in Sept. and we added a 49th lie-—”Alger Hiss was Innocent.”


26 posted on 05/09/2009 4:45:43 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: nickcarraway

No historian or anyone seriously interested in history is going to take the musings of this well-connected leftist journalist seriously. Allen Weinstein’s _Perjury_ and _The Haunted Wood_ closed the book on Hiss years ago. But you’ve got to admire the tenacity of the Left. They just won’t let this go.

Looking forward to the Hiss chapter in Larry’s book.


27 posted on 05/09/2009 5:17:12 AM PDT by varialectio ("Woe to the land whose king is a child")
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To: nickcarraway
I did a paper in college on this very topic. Indeed, the trial aroused the passions of America at the time. It was the handsome, eloquent Alger Hiss vs the fat, stumbling Whitaker Chambers. I thought I read somewhere the documents from the USSR showed the Hiss was indeed a spy. Anyway, I concluded in my paper that Alger Hiss was indeed a liar. Fortunately, I had a professor that was interested in learning rather than indoctrination. I got an “A”. As he shook my hand at graduation he referenced the paper I wrote. That was an awesome moment!
28 posted on 05/09/2009 5:42:40 AM PDT by baldeagle390
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To: nickcarraway

It tells you all you need to know about the Left that, when it turns out Sacco & Vanzetti, the Rosenbergs, Hiss, etc. were guilty as charged, IT DOESN’T MATTER. Leftists have always been great explainers, ever since the working class failed to deliver as promised by Uncle Karl.


29 posted on 05/09/2009 6:07:05 AM PDT by varialectio ("Woe to the land whose king is a child")
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To: nickcarraway

The title should read: Alger Hiss and Revisionist History. Remember, for Democrats and their minions in the teaching profession the US needlessly exploded two atomic bombs, started the war in Korea, was responsible for the Cold War, forced the Soviets to build the Berlin Wall, and forced the Soviets to invade Afghanistan. And, of course, the person whose policies brought the Cold War to an end was Mikhail Gorbachov. Our indigenous America-haters are now numbered in the tens of millions thanks to revisionist historians.


30 posted on 05/09/2009 6:55:49 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: Yardstick

I took a class from a history professor who was like that. He let FDR off the hook for Yalta and railed against “McCarthyism” claiming there were “never any communists in the government.” He absolutely adored Woodrow Wilson, FDR and JFK. Henry Cabot Lodge Sr., Nixon and McCarthy were the great villains of American history according to him. I would be critical of communism and JFK and question him on it. I think that’s why he gave me a B instead of an A.


31 posted on 05/09/2009 9:52:24 AM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: nathanbedford
Thanks for your lenghty and thoughtful analysis. I find myself almost always thinking like you and am always eager to read your posts.

Μολὼν λάβε


32 posted on 05/09/2009 10:00:33 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: nathanbedford; iopscusa; Jimmy Valentine; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER
Richard Carlson as Herb Philbrick in I Led Three Lives the black and white series sponsored by Phillips 66.

How quaint--the secret Communist cell--

Now comes Frank Marshall Davis the CPUSA member and his whiskey-and-marijuana comrade Stanley Armour--

And Stanley's grandson the highest mole yet.

Al Gore the darling of Armand Hammer bagman to the Soviet dictators, his father founding the CPUSA in 1919.

Delano was enamored of Uncle Joe, quite prepared to sacrifice the freedom and very lives of millions of Europeans, to insult Churchill, to dismiss charges of infiltration in his administration--

Now comes Hillary the progressive whose homage to Alinsky is unsealed--and her Alinskyite fellow traveler Hussein.

Again it should be emphasized New York Times, Walter Duranty, Uncle Joe, Senator Joe--

Drink the Kool-Aid or be deemed anti-intellectual, a clinger to Bibles and guns.

The institutional pressures you describe are now so pervasive as to be the water which the fish cannot perceive.

Horowitz chronicles serial academic outrage and is met by shouting agitators.

We have met the anti-intellectuals and they are the Left.

Now shapeshifted into the Harvard grease extruder Hussein, an absolute babbler sans his telepromptered lines.

Who was so impressed at the Potemkin metropolis built on the spilled blood of the Tiananmen Two Thousand.

Brother Ayers knows of omelets and bombs, while bony metro usurper whines to be left alone to his waffle.

Thank you again for your illumination of the persistent subliminal sleight of hand of the Left.

It's tyranny and we're not having it--not yesterday, not today, never.


33 posted on 05/09/2009 1:12:32 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo

*Bump!*


34 posted on 05/09/2009 1:48:56 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: PhilDragoo

Excellent Phil, we know the truth. I would have loved to see Stanton Evans (Blacklisted by History) the greatest living authority on McCarthy, eviscerate Indiana Civil Liberties head Dr. Robert Risk in 1964—a fact-based fearless warrior defeated a propaganda-spewing fairy in public combat.
Balcklisted by History, The Venona Files and Comrade J are 3 must reads for all Americans.


35 posted on 05/09/2009 4:41:02 PM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: nickcarraway

As bad as Alger Hiss was, Harry Dexter White was far more dangerous.


36 posted on 05/09/2009 4:47:00 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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