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A Prom Divided
NYT ^ | May 2009

Posted on 05/26/2009 3:39:05 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: Gay State Conservative

Nor do I, as I just posted.


41 posted on 05/26/2009 4:36:58 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: holly101

“we are two different species..”

Were you not able to pass 9th grade biology or are you a racist?


42 posted on 05/26/2009 4:39:56 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: dfwgator

link?


43 posted on 05/26/2009 4:41:23 PM PDT by LowOiL (Tagline: Optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Brytani

Thank you Bryani. A voice of reason.


44 posted on 05/26/2009 4:41:33 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

We didn’t have a segrgated prom intentionally but there were no blacks in my graduating class so the prom was 100% white. There was about 3 black kids in the whole school but none in my class.


45 posted on 05/26/2009 4:41:51 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: trumandogz

The problem here is the students are sucking off their parents for the Prom money and thus subject to their rules.

Kids, you want your own prom, raise the money and have your own prom, otherwise... you get what you get.


46 posted on 05/26/2009 4:43:37 PM PDT by LowOiL (Tagline: Optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: LowOiL

Our school, the students raised their money needed for the prom. These kids can do the same.


47 posted on 05/26/2009 4:46:11 PM PDT by LowOiL (Tagline: Optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: saquin
You apparently didn't see the special on this last year, or maybe the year before. I have even forgotten whether it was 20/20 or 48 hrs, or some such thing. But they interview the kids, and it was their choice, not the parents. What is wrong with their choice to exercise their freedom of association rights? Nothing I say!
48 posted on 05/26/2009 4:47:09 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: gidget7

I think I remember this coming up last year or the year before and it was the kids who wanted the separate proms.

This year the press is saying the kids want one prom but the parents are standing in the way. Given my distrust of the media, I need more confirmation than a recycled AP report.


49 posted on 05/26/2009 4:49:49 PM PDT by Brytani (No Taxation Without Birth Certification)
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To: Brytani

Couldn’t agree more!!


50 posted on 05/26/2009 4:53:19 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: gidget7

Well, isn’t that what I just said, different words, same thing.
I see nothing wrong with that.


51 posted on 05/26/2009 4:53:32 PM PDT by holly101
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To: gidget7

Do you gave any data that show that white kids won’t dance to hip hop or rap?


52 posted on 05/26/2009 4:58:07 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz

Gave=Have


53 posted on 05/26/2009 4:59:19 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: MinorityRepublican

UCLA holds separate graduations every year for all the various minority students on their campus. This is seen as a celebration of “diversity”. I’m sure this move would win praise at the NYT.

So why is it bad when Proms are segregated in the south?


54 posted on 05/26/2009 5:01:46 PM PDT by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: trumandogz
Do you gave any data that show that white kids won’t dance to hip hop or rap?

Why don't they all just take swing dance lessons, hire the Basie band and be done with it?

55 posted on 05/26/2009 5:11:18 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Tzimisce

“UCLA holds separate graduations every year for all the various minority students on their campus. This is seen as a celebration of “diversity”. I’m sure this move would win praise at the NYT.

So why is it bad when Proms are segregated in the south?”

It’s not a bad thing. Some people are just so conditioned to think it’s bad they jump on the bandwagon and declare it a disgrace. Nothing wrong with blacks wanting to be with blacks and whites with whites. We are different, regardless of what anyone says to the contrary.


56 posted on 05/26/2009 5:13:22 PM PDT by holly101
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To: gidget7
Should the kids be able to choose the race of the kids in their classroom?
57 posted on 05/26/2009 5:16:07 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Other counties in Maryland had integrated by 1967. (By contrast, in Boston in 1974 they were burning school busses so their kids did not have to go to school with "those people" across town.)

At the high school level, the ensuing in-school race riots went on for six or seven years. Even the FBI was called in and made an arrest at one high school I know of.

Either the districts were gerrymandered to have severe racial imbalence, or there was conflict.

That made for one heck of an 'education', but not much schooling got done.

Now, this may be an unpopular (not politically correct) thought, but before submitting to the knee jerk urge to call me a racist, consider that there were no real discipline problems in predominantly black or white schools before integration.

Consider that the quality of education received in either was leaps and bounds ahead of what today's often nearly innumerate and illiterate graduates get.

Consider that discipline did not get shunted aside for considerations of NAACP and ACLU Lawsuits, but was stern and swift.

Order was maintained, and the students learned, with academic achievement a clear goal.

If having seperate proms allows both groups to have their own style of music, dancing, and fun without causing hard feelings, all the better for it.

If the students wanted it otherwise, I am sure they would insist on it being so.

Or do we all have to have our right to associate with whom we choose, when we choose subsumed to the collective cultural emulsion.

If this is what the students want, why not?

There are many who will sit in judgement behind their keyboards and decry the idea that students from the same school might not want to associate with others from the same school. Have at. It is still a little bit of a free country.

In my humble opinion, the choice should be up to the students, and it is not the business of the AP, NYT, or even FReepers to judge these students as if they are some cracker KKK types (partly because there is a black prom, too), which seems to be a knee jerk reaction.

So let me ask this. How many of those who think this is so horrible ever went to a school where they (and their culture) was in the minority?

How many of you think you or anyone else has the right to force these students, by virtue of law, lawsuit, or just the 'court of popular opinion' to conform to your ideas of what you think they should live like? Who are you to judge?

58 posted on 05/26/2009 5:21:28 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

You’re right, and I’d wager that a majority of Americans would agree with all or most of what you said.

THAT’s why the article was written, to keep those Americans thinking they’re in the minority.


59 posted on 05/26/2009 5:37:48 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries for the American farmer.)
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To: John Will

No. Any stats?


60 posted on 05/26/2009 5:49:53 PM PDT by Wuli
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