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eBay founder's links to Obama unveiled
wnd ^ | July 02, 2009 12:00 am Eastern | Drew Zahn

Posted on 07/01/2009 9:46:10 PM PDT by Red Steel

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To: Question Liberal Authority

Then the obvious course of action is to set up an auction somewhere else.


21 posted on 07/01/2009 10:16:53 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Scheneida
Don't mean to be overly skeptical of a newby, but upon reading your link regarding BO’s LBC, this sounds too much like an Axlerod explanation. It ALMOST says the Governor verified it to be authentic, but still sounds like the HI Gov. has not seen the real thing first-hand, sorta like "depends on what the meaning of IS, is". Seminar poster?
22 posted on 07/01/2009 10:20:39 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember the Alamo Tea Party - CHENEY-PALIN 2012)
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To: Red Steel

obumpa


23 posted on 07/01/2009 10:22:31 PM PDT by Dajjal (Obama is an Ericksonian NLP hypnotist.)
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To: Red Steel
It depends what you're trying to do. If you're trying to sell the actual certificate and make some money, then eBay's not the venue. If you're trying to bring attention to the existence of the certificate, then eBay's as good a venue as any.

An eBay listing isn't inherently political, and a listing could be removed if it's just a political screed. For details on that, search eBay Help for 'signposting'.

However, you can manufacture items which have a political slant and sell them on eBay. You just can't make political statements in the text of the listing. For instance, you could make a bumper sticker which says 'Obama Sucks' and sell it on eBay. But you couldn't devote the text of the listing to reasons why you think Obama sucks.
24 posted on 07/01/2009 10:26:06 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Carbon Dioxide is NOT POLLUTION)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

and Persian to boot


25 posted on 07/01/2009 10:29:50 PM PDT by MissDairyGoodnessVT (Mac Conchradha - "Skeagh mac en chroe"- Skaghvicencrowe)
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To: Scheneida
So the Department of Health uses an alleged original Obama birth certificate with the parents' names Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama and takes it upon themselves to change it to Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama for the announcement they submit to the papers? Tell you what Scheneida, I'd like to see the hidden Obama Selective Service Registration, passports, Illinois Senate Records, medical records, college records, college thesis, adoption records, and the original birth certificate. The guy is a proven liar so indulge me with the documentation to back up the resume. The sanctity of the US Constitution is worth it.
26 posted on 07/01/2009 10:44:08 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: stephenjohnbanker

> Yep. Most billionaires in the USA are libs.......just another lie.<

And you know why?

Just like my white lib friends here in L.A., it’s called “rich man’s guilt”.

The way it works, as long as they vote Dem, they think they can appease their capitalist tendencies by making themselves feel better, they are one of the “masses”. Just like when they vote oBama, they are telling themselves they are not racist...but they really are deep down. A study made a year ago showed that Democrats were more racist than Republicans.


27 posted on 07/01/2009 11:40:07 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Red Steel

Well, that would explain how that scamster on eBay was able to have his auction suspended several times and the seller not be suspended for violations. LOL...

It sounds like eBay and that Obama birth certificate scamster/eBay seller were working together like ole “chief editor Korir” and the Michelle Obama phone tape — in trying to hoax people and show what fools they are for believing stuff like that... :-)

I can just see them working together like ole “chief editor Korir” did, in hoaxing everyone about giving that Michelle Obama phone tape to Fox News. It never did make it over to Fox News (and it never was going to go over there, doncha know...).


28 posted on 07/02/2009 2:56:08 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Red Steel

e-bay is one of the companies that supports Cap & Trade HR2998, it’s listed in the Congressional Record.


29 posted on 07/02/2009 3:37:12 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Life, Liberty and the Department of Happiness)
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To: STARWISE

Amazing, the links never end.


30 posted on 07/02/2009 5:18:39 AM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: STARWISE; AZ .44 MAG; azishot; Beckwith; BIGLOOK; BonRad; Brown Deer; Candor7; Cicero; ...
When he talks about America, it makes me proud to be an American. I want to believe, and I do believe that we live in the America he is talking about. I’m an immigrant, and even though I was raised here, I’ve always loved this country and its ideals with the fervor of a convert. He puts words to what I feel.

Thanks for making me puke my guts out.

31 posted on 07/02/2009 5:42:15 AM PDT by Polarik (Mom: You were right! The world IS run by a secret, international cabal.)
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To: Red Steel

It was a big deal Meg Whitman took off to campaign for McCain last year. Everyone said how is ultra liberal Pierre going to like that? I think he was too busy selling off 100 millions of stock at a time to care what she did.


32 posted on 07/02/2009 6:04:37 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: max americana

“A study made a year ago showed that Democrats were more racist than Republicans.”

In the early 70’s when I was in college, I worked for a black film production company which was located near Harvard Square.

It was owned by:
Robert Hooks
Preston Webster
Melvin Van Peebles
Maybelle King
They knew I was a conservative, and used to tease me about it(not in a mean spirited way though). Why did I not get fired for being a conservative in the most liberal bastion in the USA?

1) I did good work

2) They knew I was not a racist.

Many times I had told them that left wing whites were the real racists. Melvin was a libertarian. He once told me the following:

“A conservative will look you in the eye, and if he is a racist, he will have the balls to say it to your face. Know when I become a nigger? When I leave the house of a liberal, and he is sure I can no longer hear him talking.”

The views of the others were fairly similar.


33 posted on 07/02/2009 7:15:39 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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To: Scheneida

arlen spector used to be a republican too - doesn’t mean much when the person’s a rino


34 posted on 07/02/2009 7:30:38 AM PDT by Citizen Soldier (Socialism is the financial arm of Communism)
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To: Scheneida
I am not a fan of politifact. They said they researched a article that I personally had researched and talked to the people involved. Their assessment was the story against obama was not true. But they did very little research on their own to see documents proving the story to be true.

This politifact article never asks why doesn't obama just show the original and stop all the questions?They never ask why obama is exempt from showing what we all must show to get a drivers license or passport. That would be too much investigating and too much thought.

World net daily keeps the information from multiple sources but then if MSM were doing their job they would not be the conductor of the birthers.

Moreover, the ad said, "members of the liberal elitist media...instead of pressing Gibbs on his outrageous statements...openly laughed."

And they did and I thought it was despicable. Basically obamas thugs threaten reporters. You either play my way or get out. This is the thugocracy and we as Americans have never seen anything like this in our lives.

Yes Gibbs lied. He knows what Obama had placed is not the original.

Some background: On June 13, 2008, after months of hounding by the media and wild Internet speculation that

Now see, without proof obama wasn't born in kenya (no one has said Indonesia, proves how bad their journalism is) then how can they as journalist say it is wild accusation? Think of this as a court proceeding and this is your only evidence. It was a wild accusation is not something that would prove anything in court.

Our friends from FactCheck.org went to Chicago, held the document in their questioning hands and examined it closely. Their conclusion: it's legit.

Factcheck and mediamatters and bought and paid for Obama supporters. George Soros has his hands in both. The main goal here is to keep the public from knowing the truth. And remember no one was allowed to hold or touch the BC during the press junket. Why media matters?

Obama went on to tell Dodd, just don't let the media touch your mortgage documents and they can't read you really got a sweetheart loan as I did.

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

So he has seen it. But what type was it? Had it been amended? Was it a late or delayed bc which is not citizenship? We would have to take obama to court to prove that, without the original we can't do anything. SCOTUS might even say the late BC was citizenship if Sotomayor gets in.

I have never seen any comment from Linda Lingle that she saw the BC as you posted?All I have ever seen is Fukino's statement. But with a adoption the original is sealed normally. The no state official instructed anyone to seal would be correct. It would have happened with state officials or courts that are dead more than likely.

Some on the Internet speculate that the original "long form" - which might include the hospital where he was born as well as the attending physician - might show Obama was foreign born - and ineligible to be president - but that that wouldn't show up on the "short form."

See this is stupid. They did no research and they will in the end declare the whole case closed. Nothing they have printed has anything to do with truth. All they had to do was look at obamasBC he posted and know there is no hospital.

Moreover, WorldNetDaily claims even the State of Hawaii doesn't accept "Certification of Live Birth" as proof that an individual was physically born in Hawaii.

No government agency anywhere in the US takes the short form. The DHHL is true and obama would not qualify for anything because he would refuse to show his original. How much time would it take to look this up? The point is they will not because they are in the tank for obama.

Hawaii no longer hands out certificate of live birth but they are preferred for ancestry research. Why this has no bearing on Obama is he has no back ground anyone can search except his books. When people do search they find the information obamahas given is false and non traceable. And if DHHL asked for obama to turn over his original he would refuse. And don't tell me obama cannot get the original because I have a vault full for my children. And another thing you can bet anyone wanting to claim land would jolly well hand over anything requested.

I can confirm hawaii prints out a BC similar to one Obama has for genealogy. But the original is there. "When you request a birth certificate, the one you get looks exactly like the one posted on his site," she said. "That's the birth certificate."

Why does it say certiifcation then? If this were remotely true we would have SCOTUS decision in writing and get all of this over with once and for all. And obama would not be spending over a million to stop the courts from seeing the original. Just recently after asking over 60 days extra they are, cheney included, now asking for dismissal because they cannot answer with truth.

As for the theory that Obama's original birth certificate might show he was foreign born, Okubo said the "Certification of Live Birth" would say so. Obama's does not. Again, it says he was born in Honolulu.

Not if the original had been amended. The short form would only have the newest information printed out. I don't recall a area for foreign born on obamas BC. This was aout and out obfuscation. He didn't lie, he just ommitted.

In Honolulu, the Obama tour buses take you by the old Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital, now called Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women & Children. Federal laws prohibit hospital officials from confirming that he was born there, but Hoover said it's common knowledge among locals.

gee obamas sister said he was born in two different hospitals. strange, why are babies being born in hospitals in newspapers if there is a federal law. They are speaking about hipaa laws. Obama could come out and say he was born there and allow the hospital to speak easily. obama does not ever speak out because he knows eventually he will get caught. he lets axelturf spin for him. whats the big deal about what hospital you were born in? Because obama is lying.

Sure they rule the statement as false. I rule them as false. Did all of Hawaiians cover up for obama? I think more they omitted to not get in trouble.

Obama can speak out and say, there is no other BC, this is the only type, the only one. But he is silent. Using campaign donations to stop the courts from taking action. Now he wants the feds to go to court for him for free.

35 posted on 07/02/2009 7:59:31 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (Constitution is not neutral.It was designed to take the government off the backs of people-Douglas)
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To: Red Steel; AZ .44 MAG; azishot; Beckwith; BIGLOOK; BonRad; Brown Deer; Candor7; Cicero; ...

Plagiarism Alert! WND swipes yet another one from us.

I'd like to know who WND has sent to go trawling on this forum for "first-hand" information? Whoever it is, they keep ripping us off of our original material.

I know that Chelsea Shilling has swiped my comments, verbatim, at least twice. Now here's another one from today's edition, The latest on eBay's 'Kenyan birth certificate':

The seller made four attempts to auction the "evidence," which would presumably render Obama ineligible to serve as president for violating the "natural born citizen" clause. The eBay website has a policy forbidding the sale of certain government documents, which presumably led to the auction page being removed.

I was the one who pointed that out right here. Four times is not a coincidence.

36 posted on 07/02/2009 8:50:53 AM PDT by Polarik (Mom: You were right! The world IS run by a secret, international cabal.)
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To: Scheneida

Well, in the first place, Linda Lingle is the Christie Whitman of Hawaii.

And in the second place, that’s not a quotation from Lingle. It is a statement by Politifact, with no source given, and as far as I know is another lie.

Politifact is another leftist propaganda site. And they just won the famously left-wing Pulitzer Prize to reward them for it.


37 posted on 07/02/2009 9:24:13 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Polarik

I don’t think WND needs to send trawlers to FR. They can easily read these threads themselves. Pretty much all the players keep an eye on FR, including TOTUS and the MSN, thouogh they use it in different ways.

On the one hand, they have helped the cause by giving these things more publicity to a wider audience. They don’t always do it as well as they might, but as the saying goes, all publicity is good publicity, especially when the other side prefers a complete blanket of silence.

On the other hand, as you state, they should give credit where credit is due. But you should feel pleased, in a perverse way, that they are ripping you off.


38 posted on 07/02/2009 9:28:48 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: AZ .44 MAG; azishot; Beckwith; BIGLOOK; BonRad; Brown Deer; Candor7; Cicero; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; ...

July 2, 2008

Joe Farah, Editor of World Net Daily, had an epiphany today when he wrote an article on how Obama is using the Cloward-Piven Strategy of Managed chaos — something we Freepers throughly discussed last year.

Farah, as you may or may not know, never said a single bad word about Obama as a Presidential candidate last year; but he did type two scathing skreeds on John McCain, who in Farah’s mind, was far worse than Obamination.

Despite repeated pleases to recognize the clear and present danger that an Obama Presidency would bring, Farah came up with the “None of the above,” campaign where neither McCain nor Obama would be selected by you, the voter.

Before that campaign, Farah was hoping that Obama would win so that the Republican Party could regroup by 2012.

Yes, you heard that right. Farah was pulling for Obama to win.

Well, how’s that strategy working out for you, Joe?

How do you like the guy who you helped get elected, Mr. Farah?

Back in February, to justify his “None of the above,” nonsense, he made the throwaway comment of the year by saying, “Well, McCain would have been equally as bad”

Sorry, Joe, but there’s no way in the world that McCain could have done to this country and to Israel what Hussein-Obama has done. Yes, McCain was really bad news but, compared to Obama, he was Reagan reincarnated.

But, hey, thanks, Joe, for finally waking up to it.


39 posted on 07/02/2009 9:33:30 AM PDT by Polarik (Mom: You were right! The world IS run by a secret, international cabal.)
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To: Red Steel

He is probably afraid of Obama, the United States of Americas version of Hugo Chavez.


40 posted on 07/02/2009 10:10:42 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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