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'Birthers' prove relentless
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch / The Associated Press ^ | July 26, 2009 | David Crary

Posted on 07/26/2009 9:48:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: I am Richard Brandon

“I’m betting Chrissy Tingle...”

And his associate, Adolf the Rednosed Dolbermann?


61 posted on 07/26/2009 11:40:41 PM PDT by MestaMachine (OREO, Milk's favorite cookie. At least that's what my TV said.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

That doesn’t make sense, IMO. The American people are generally pretty forgiving of things like that. I don’t think having a father ID issue on the BC would be enough to challenge the anointed one’s political life.
On the other hand...if there is NO BC, or the BC in some manner doesn’t support his eligibility under the Constitution...that would be another story.

It’s time to take back the country.


62 posted on 07/26/2009 11:49:09 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Change we can look forward to.)
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To: miliantnutcase

Medved is a pressure relief valve. He’s just as much a leftwing nut as he was back in the day. Only now he’s just hiding it.


63 posted on 07/26/2009 11:54:05 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Irish Eyes
“Who is obama? all records are missing.”

Yes, the press, in it's eagerness to get rid of Bush and to show their ‘progressiveness’ in supporting the election of a ‘person of color’ to the presidency, totally ignored their responsibility to vet Obama. Little was made of the Resko issue, until Hillary brought it up, and huge holes in Obama’s past were left as question marks. Remember how much time the press spent pursuing the dates that Bush fulfilled his National Guard duties, and the insistence that he wasn't where he said he was when he said he was? The MSM has no credibility, which is why they are failing.

64 posted on 07/27/2009 12:01:13 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: KAUAIBOUND
I had not heard previously that the address on the newspaper birth notice was phony. What is the source of that information? If this is true, I would guess that Obama’s parents had no address at the time of Obama’s birth, probably because they had traveled to Kenya after their lease expired.

FR discussion: Obama birth announcement in Honolulu paper, a must read (read it all, esp the end)

This post roams around and plays with the oddness of the owner of this address dying right before the newspaper notice was found, but eventually shows that WND found the original microfilm of the papers with these announcements in context. Nevertheless, the basic fact exposed is that the Obama's never lived at the address in these birth announcements.

How does July 22, 2008 sound as the birth announcement discovery date. You see, the address listed on the birth announcement was never the Obama’s address, as they never lived together as man and wife.

The address listed is 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, and was the residenc of Orland Scott Lefforge, a Professor at UH at Manoa, Dept. of Speech. Later, he became an assistant to Sen. Daniel Inouye in 1967. After that he wrote a paper about “In service Training as an Instrument of Change” (1971). He was also an administrator in the UH Community College office, and a member of the Osher Institute. He died July 4, 2007 at the age of 91. His wife/companion Thelma Jones Lefforge Young died June 12, 2008.

Ten days from Lefforge’s death is plenty of time to cut, typeset, & paste a new birth announcement. From what I’ve read, the announcements were scanned and emailed by the librarian in Hawaii to a blogger named Lori and then to the TD [texasdarling.wordpress.com] blog.

Unfortunately, they should have put more time into researching a safer and more practical address. Whomever suggests that CIA is behind this has got to be joking. No one at the agency would have been so stupid as to have chosen an address that is easily traced to a family occuping the home. Nor would they have selected a property grossly beyond the means of the supposed occupants.

In 1961 the Dunhams lived on Kamehameha Avenue, while Obama Sr. lived on 11th Avenue. The Lefforge family, including their 3 children under the age of seven were residing at the luxury home listed on Obama’s newly found birth announcement — 6085 Kalanianaole Highway.

It is highly improbable that the Lefforges would move an African 25 year old male and his pregnant teenage girlfriend into their home. Why would anyone want unemployed college students and a newborn baby living in their family home with their own three young children?

And since the Mr. Lefforge died 10 days prior to the appearance of the birth announcement that listed his address, we can’t ask him. But we do know that the next door neighbors testify that Obama, his mama, and his ‘papa’ never lived there. What a tangled web of lies...

Not a shred of evidence links the Dunhams or Obamas to Kalanianaole Highway. Kalanianaole only surfaced in connection with the Obamas in July 2008. I don’t think a commemorative plaque on the old homestead will be nailed up anytime soon.

I wasn’t necessarily tying the date of the release of the Certificate with the June 12, 2008 date. I was trying to see how the sudden discovery of the birth announcement coincides with the death of the legitimate owner (witness) of the home that was alleged to be the first home of Obama.

So in other words, the recent death announcement of the 1961 resident triggers the announcement, since now it is presumed to be a “safe address” to utilize as home plate.

Mrs. Lefforge (not Mister) passed away June 12, 2008. Forty days later, her address was found to be used as the first home of Obama.

The Microfilm In Hawaii, WND was able to locate at the Honolulu public library microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday Advertiser Aug. 13, 1961. The announcement in the “Births, Marriages, Death” section read: “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”

Arakaki told Baro’s investigators she had no recollection of Obama being born or of the family living next door having a black child born to a white mother.

Baro sent a team of investigators to Honolulu to explore records regarding current residents of Kalanianaole Highway and to track down residents back to 1961.

Baro’s investigators were unable to locate any current or past resident of Kalanianaole Highway who could recall Obama or his family living at the address listed in the Sunday Advertiser announcement.

Baro also sent investigators to the newspaper offices to examine files, but the Advertiser could not confirm who actually placed the ad.

According to Baro’s affidavit, Beatrice Arakaki affirmed she was a neighbor of the address listed. She has lived at her current residence of 6075 Kalanianaole Highway from before 1961 to the present.

Moreover, Arakaki said she believed that when Obama lived with the Dunhams, his grandparents, the family address was in Waikiki, not on Kalanianaole Highway.

Baro was able to determine the previous owners of the residence at 6085 Kalanianaole Highway — the alleged address of Obama’s parents when he was born — were Orland S. and Thelma S. (Young) Lefforge, both of whom are deceased. ****

Just so you understand how deep the conspiracy runs on the cover-up of President Obama’s origins, his Hawaiian school file for kindergarten has gone missing! His is the only file from his class to have disappeared. In it would be his certified copy of his Birth Certificate, his real name, his birthplace, his vaccination record up to that date. There would be no embarrassing records as to his achievements or lack thereof - ‘cause few people have any at five years of age.

The only reason possible to hide this birthplace information is that he wasn’t born in the United States.

Unfortunately, they should have put more time into researching a safer and more practical address. Whomever suggests that CIA is behind this has got to be joking. No one at the agency would have been so stupid as to have chosen an address that is easily traced to a family occuping the home. Nor would they have selected a property grossly beyond the means of the supposed occupants. They would have safely chosen Bear-icks or the Dunham’s address. This birth announcement was done by someone wishing to uplift the early status of their beloved leader by selecting a pricy address and not doing their homework....”

“.... So in other words, the recent death announcement of the 1961 resident triggers the announcement, since now it is presumed to be a “safe address” to utilize as home plate.

Mrs. Lefforge (not Mister) passed away June 12, 2008. Forty days later, her address was found to be used as the first home of Obama....”

“...WND was able to locate at the Honolulu public library microfilm of a notice placed in the Sunday Advertiser Aug. 13, 1961. The announcement in the “Births, Marriages, Death” section read: “Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama, 6085 Kalanianaole Hwy., son, Aug. 4.”

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So according to World Net Daily there IS a microfilm in the Honolulu library which has the newspaper birth listing! Now we’re getting somewhere! Unless the Conspiracy managed to obtain an unexposed roll of 1960’s microfilm stock (and in only a few days!), the library roll is either on new film stock, or the library roll is the original with the relevant frame cut out and a new one spliced in, which would be obvious by inspection. Get Beckwith or World Net Daily to the Honolulu library stat to look at that roll! The proof of the Conspiracy is within your grasp!

The Lafforges were both professors at the University of Hawaii, had three children (none of whom were half-white and named Barack Hussein Obama), and were very, very progressive-type liberal activists. The Obamas never lived together as man and wife, and they never lived with the Lafforges. These are the facts.

65 posted on 07/27/2009 12:10:57 AM PDT by dalight
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To: alaskamomma
Question that has been bothering me..since when do they put as the fathers race-African. anyone?

I've thought about that. If I had to bet, I'd guess that this was part of a politically correct scrubbing of old records. If we somehow got the original certificate issued at the time (I take no position on it's existence), it would probably say "negro" or some such politically incorrect term. When things were digitized, some busybody decided to replace historically correct information with PC replacements. Just a theory.

66 posted on 07/27/2009 12:28:50 AM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Windflier

Rather like her promotion of phony “pro-life” “conservative” Mitt Romney -
who brought Massachusetts, Romney Care (Obamacare lite)!


67 posted on 07/27/2009 12:31:43 AM PDT by Lesforlife
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I would send him the $10 he needed but I think I’ll be needing it to pay for FailureCare


68 posted on 07/27/2009 12:38:00 AM PDT by OneThousandYards
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To: Parmy
All he has to do is show the real certificate.

By now he should have found someone to make one for him. The fact that he did not and was not required to before becoming president means that the corruption in DC is over the top. We need to flush DC by ballot or if that fails, by bullets or or children will end up slaves.

Interesting that the first Black pre___ent led America back into slavery.

69 posted on 07/27/2009 12:53:15 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: alaskamomma

The call it african since African-American became in vogue, about 20 years after he was born.


70 posted on 07/27/2009 12:54:30 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: haroldeveryman
What do you call someone who thinks a Democrat President should be a natural born citizen?

I dunno, militiaman?

71 posted on 07/27/2009 1:00:13 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: napscoordinator
but then found out that he released his short form.

He never released anything, it was posted by a third party on a third party webpage, and debunked as a forgery by a digital forensics expert.

Obama never released anything, he did not fulfill his requirement to prove his eligibility, and the Democratic controlled congress let him get away with it.

High Treason. God's Judgment is on America, we are no longer free. Instead of remaining free under God, we kicked out God and made Government or God.

Pretty stupid, but now that is what we have, a messiah complex illegal alien president that not only wants to abort babies, but grannies and any mentally deranged people too. Like Conservatives...

72 posted on 07/27/2009 1:06:04 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: F15Eagle

Exactly. He wrote that to try and QUELL this issue.

FAIL.


73 posted on 07/27/2009 1:08:45 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: KAUAIBOUND

Good point! You forgot to add Cane Spiders in your tag line too!


74 posted on 07/27/2009 1:10:37 AM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Logic says it’s a trap, though an accidental one. If Obama was not natural born he would have been exposed during the primaries. Obama is hiding something else on the birth certificate, perhaps the name of the father. Or perhaps the father is listed as “unknown.”

Exposed in the primaries by whom? Hillary? She's as dirty as he is, so she would only burn Obama with it if Obama couldn't burn her with something. Or perhaps they made a deal. Who knows. If we can't get at this stuff now, what makes you think it would have been any easier to get to his records back then? What possible reason could you have for thinking that the primaries were some magical time when Obama's records were more available?
75 posted on 07/27/2009 1:37:38 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: alaskamomma

Not in the sixties, that’s for sure. Remember this is before the Civil Rights Act after which blacks decided they wanted to be called ‘black’ because of the aura of militancy it provoked. Most likely a BC of that era would say ‘negro’, which is one of the three great races of man, just as ‘caucasian’ is, which is how the mother is described.


76 posted on 07/27/2009 3:34:44 AM PDT by bustinchops
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To: Blind Eye Jones

Is anybody suing the state of HI to get the alleged sealed record? I don’t mean suing Ostammer; I mean the state of HI, or even their congressmen for dereliction of sworn duty to uphold the constitution? If they need a volunteer victim/plaintiff, I’ll sign up.


77 posted on 07/27/2009 3:37:06 AM PDT by bustinchops
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To: bustinchops

“Is anybody suing the state of HI to get the alleged sealed record?”

I don’t know the legalities of it but this is not going away any time soon. Now the word is they’ve destroyed all the records. It’s just more fuel for the fire.


78 posted on 07/27/2009 4:05:08 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“STEADFAST” is a better term!


79 posted on 07/27/2009 5:10:35 AM PDT by 2harddrive (S)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; DavidFarrar

Please see BOTH BC’s side by side.....it’s like night and day.


80 posted on 07/27/2009 5:14:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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