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Environmental Blackmail: The Obama administration’s EPA ruling is an attempt to force...
City Journal ^ | 16 December 2009 | Max Schulz

Posted on 12/17/2009 7:49:08 PM PST by neverdem

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To: neverdem

Truth of the matter is (sad to say) the United States does not have a leader. We have a follower of a agenda that many
Americans have have fought and died over past years in trying to prevent. As each day passes he only makes matters worse for most Americans and he has been in office less than one year. Look at what he has done to our country in that short period and think about what our USA will look like in another three plus years. It seems that our only chance to reclaim our country is 2010 because at the rate things are going 2012 may be too late.


21 posted on 12/17/2009 11:41:24 PM PST by Macgedos
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To: !1776!

There is a whole panel of “empathic” Obama appointees sitting in our courts just waiting to throw out the Constitution along with any lawsuits they disagree with.


22 posted on 12/17/2009 11:45:07 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: parthian shot
An unnamed White House official was more explicit, telling Fox News,
“If you don’t pass this legislation, then . . . the EPA is going to have to regulate in this area. And it is not going to be able to regulate on a market-based way, so it’s going to have to regulate in a command-and-control way, which will probably generate even more uncertainty.”
Not to mention riots, pitchforks, and a few lynchings of those 'faceless bureaucrats' hiding under their desks in the 3rd subbasement.
23 posted on 12/18/2009 5:23:16 AM PST by Condor51 (The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits)
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To: Macgedos
Well said. Our current experience makes it easier to understand how other nations drifted toward, and later plunged into soft tyrannies or totalitarianism.

Human nature is a constant throughout history. The institutions (Christianity, our state and federal governments under Constitutions) that once stood as bulwarks between us and our dark sides are largely gone. Our representatives increasingly reflect an immoral people for which our Constitution is unsuitable.

24 posted on 12/18/2009 5:31:19 AM PST by Jacquerie (More Central Planning is not the solution to the failures of Central Planning.)
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To: parthian shot
Just one political assault after another.

Yes, Democrats are the threat to our way of life , to America, and to freedom itself.

Who elected the EPA?

EPA, FEC,FCC, FDA, NASA, HUD,HHS, dept of education, dept of energy, the government schools, and almost every one of the thousands of government agencies must be abolished.

Government idiots steal $11,000.00 dollars per year from the job creators to “educate” a government school student. Many entrepreneurs can start a small business for $11,000. that is just more money wasted by government.

Government agencies have given hundreds of billions of dollars in government grants to fund ridiculous fraudulent nonprofit organizations, and ridiculous research to perpetuate lies like global warming , 3 million to study surgery in outer space etc. etc. All of this while 17% of Americans are unemployed.

Only for profit private business are accountable , accountable to customers, accountable to the bottom line, accountable to efficiency , and accountable to reality.

A product has to work so it has to rely on real science and has to have high quality and has to be produced efficiently. Only private for profit companies can do this. Government doesn't even deal in real science as the global warming hoax shows. So government can never produce quality products efficiently.

God bless the elected Republicans for trying to stop the EPA from destroying the U.S. economy for a lie called global warming.

25 posted on 12/18/2009 11:11:29 AM PST by Democrat_media (Democrats are the threat , they all voted for socialism on 11/21/09)
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What about the use of CO2 in the growing of algae that produces fuel oil? The cricket chirps are maddening.


26 posted on 12/19/2009 2:48:16 AM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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To: neverdem
Riighhht,

When Americans refuse one evil, force another, much larger evil on them so they will accept the lesser evil. Which is their intent in the first place.

Manipulation through fear. Which Saul Alinski rule is that again? Or is that directly from Joseph Stalin?

27 posted on 12/19/2009 3:01:55 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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What about the use of CO2 in the growing of algae that produces fuel oil? The cricket chirps are maddening.

Not exactyly sure the point so don't want to infer, but would say that such could be done without a carbon tax or regulation. Just need the cost of the algae fuel to be competitive in the market.

And a lot of space...

I'm all for alternative energy, algae based fuel, firiing boimass, solar, etc. I just believe it should be market based and winners and losers shouldn't be picked by beauracrats dabbling in social engineering with other people's money.

28 posted on 12/19/2009 11:28:03 AM PST by !1776!
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To: neverdem

Good. Let the EPA pass stupid regulations; vote for a conservative in 2012; put in a new EPA; overturn Obamaregs. Problem solved.


29 posted on 12/19/2009 11:33:15 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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That looks like a great project and a whole lot of work...

I wish you continued success.

30 posted on 12/19/2009 11:39:27 AM PST by !1776!
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To: Tzimisce
There is a whole panel of “empathic” Obama appointees sitting in our courts just waiting to throw out the Constitution along with any lawsuits they disagree with.

Not disagreeing - McCain Fiengold being a perfect example.

In this case though, I am hoping that their selfish pride will overcome their agenda. They would essentially have to admit they have been wrong for 10+ years and might even open up the opportunity to challenge some (many) of their previous rulings that relied on strict interpretation of the CAA.

At it's foundation this whole debacle - CO2 and the abuse of the CAA - is the fault of Congress. They can change the law but don't. They have surrendered their responsibility to the EPA and the court system and should take their fair share of the blame.

31 posted on 12/19/2009 11:44:47 AM PST by !1776!
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Government agencies have given hundreds of billions of dollars in government grants to fund ridiculous fraudulent nonprofit organizations

On this very topic - did you know that part of the federal grant funds that are given to states to run their regulatory air quality programs are diverted to a group named NACAA - National Association of Clean Air Agencies (Formerly STAPPA/ALAPCO).

The purpose of this group is to lobby EPA for more stringent regulations and for more money for the states and is made up of repressentatives of the air quality regulators in the states (who have agreed to give up some of their money to fund the group).

Maybe there is a specific provision in the CAA that makes this legit, and maybe it has changed in the past 10 years, but it was a little fishy when I was in this arena a decade or so ago...

32 posted on 12/19/2009 11:51:05 AM PST by !1776!
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To: !1776!

Maybe the courts will and maybe they won’t.

Americans wanted “change” - I wonder how many of them wanted a government that so openly disregards their opinions.

I’m not going to hold my breath.


33 posted on 12/19/2009 4:33:34 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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I have been invited to publish in a number of technical journals. So far, I've declined, because I want THEM admitting in writing that what we've done is unprecedented before I do so.

No weasel room allowed.

34 posted on 12/19/2009 5:26:46 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Islam offers three choices: surrender, fight, or die.)
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You are correct. It should all be market driven. And the Feds should stay out of the way when it comes to our energy needs. Even though this subject is off topic, I think it illustrates why the Obama Regime is not interested in real solutions. They are only interested in power and control. Algae Oil has become the most important development in the energy picture that will revolutionize this nation's energy needs. Even the oil companies are going after Algae Oil with intensive effort after recent breakthroughs have opened up new possibilities. At the same time, little attention being given by the state controlled media.

Green Star, for instance has created a micronutrient that makes algae increase its lipid production by 34%. Their technique combined with the use of municipal waste water will provide ideal conditions for algae growth.

Joule Biotechnologies has a process that it says can make 20,000 gallons of biofuel per acre per year. Their process will be competitive with crude oil at $50 a barrel. ExxonMobil is predicting 100,000 gallons of bio-fuel per acre per year. They are working on genetic engineering methods to create super algae that not only will produce oil, but also methane, natural gas and hydrogen gas.

The big thing is the use of CO2 from coal fired plants. “The reason algae is so interesting is that it can directly convert CO2 into biomass very quickly, more efficiently than anything else we know of,” says Rodney Andrews, director of UK’s Center for Applied Energy Research. This effort will make available an alternative fuel that may become cheaper than petroleum based fuels. And it will use CO2 as a biomass food. CO2 is really our friend.

35 posted on 12/19/2009 10:48:08 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Marxism.)
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