Posted on 01/04/2010 7:24:46 PM PST by RobinMasters
If as Comrade Obama Jr claims his dad was Barak Hussein Obama Sr, of Kenya,
than it's not possible for Junior to be a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.
At the time of the drafting and ratification of the United States constitution,
the definition of natural born citizen, combined both the principles of jus soli and jus sanguinis.
“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Emmerich De Vattel, (1714-1767,) Law of Nations, 1758, § 212, "Of the citizens and naturals."
As I have been posting on FR for several months, Beck, Rush and all of the other so called conservative talking boobleheads are all frauds by not addressing this issue in a meaningful and insightful manner.
Even Sarah Palin said Americans have a RIGHT to to Obama’s long form BC.
Hey Glenn, speak the truth to power!
They are loosing creds with conservatives more each day over this single issue. And that goes for all of these cowards.
I know several conservatives that have stopped watching or listening to these bozos over this one issue.
It isn’t about where it may go, it’s about knowing the truth and fighting for what is right.
Rush, Savage and Hannity
Of the three you mentioned I think only Savage has spokenon this issue to any meaningful degree.
Do you consider the Constitution to be an 'arcane' document, too?
Yes, some of us DO care. We care very much, in fact.
Mostly because WE don't believe the Constitution is a living document, but a LEGAL one carefully crafted by the Founders to insure the survival of the Republic.
If Beck thinks that the newspaper birth announcement is proof he should take a second to think. To wit, consider this: babies are born outside an hospital.
Me for example.
My birth certificate (the real one) is stamped DELAYED.
My parents registered me weeks after I was born at home. All it took was to fill out a form and have a doctor, midwife , or other sign it.
If Obama's birth announcement had a hospital name attached then Beck and other wise guys would have a point. On the other hand a delayed registration does not disprove a Hawaiian birth. I heard Beck's silly comments on Monday's radio show. It's given me cause to wonder about everything the guy says.
As for Hillary what did Obama's people have on her? IMO it's more likely the two-way ruinous information was MAD, mutually assured destruction.
Ditto.
Whether or not the natural citizen question will unseat Barack 0bama it is still *extremely* important to ask the legal questions.
Otherwise the Constitution is dead.
Yeah, you may be right. :0/
bttt
Suicide may be the way the country goes, but she's not dead yet.
Not as long as people like us are still around, anyhow!
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BTW- Howdy, Vet!
I also agree with Beck...we need to put our time & energy on things we can do something about for example...the mid-term 2010 election...we MUST clean HOUSE & take back our country. If we go in many different direction...it will weaken us and we need be a strong majority of Americans & get rid of these people that are writing bills and ignoring the Constitution...we can put the birth certificate on the back burner for another day & time.
This thrashing of our Constitution by discounting those who want our Presidential eligibility requirements enforced sickens me. It also identifies Glenn with the opposition and thus I have lost respect for him and the others. Looks like we’re going down as this was the only chance to save our Republic.
The evidence of 0’s accomplishments and even existence have been cleansed or blocked.
Nor one time Beck supporters.
Count me among the lost and former supporters.
I am one as I couldn’t be more disappointed... Thanks for your post.
When tyranny comes these guys and gals will be the willing Goebbels of the oligarchy. They will use their prodigious talents to spit shine the jack boots crushing our necks.
Those who don't care about the Constitution are NOT conservatives. It is really that simple.
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