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N.C High Schools to Remove Pre-1877 U.S. History?
FoxNews.com ^ | February 3, 2010 | Molly Henneberg

Posted on 02/03/2010 7:09:53 PM PST by phi11yguy19

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To: phi11yguy19; Schwaeky
From the article:
"They certainly are taught U.S. and North Carolina history in middle school."
I bet they don't cover colors, tying shoes, and fractions in high school, either.
61 posted on 02/04/2010 12:34:59 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: La Lydia; Salamander; Slings and Arrows; Markos33

You might want to read this excerpt/essay. It explains a lot.

http://www.sntp.net/education/gatto.htm


62 posted on 02/04/2010 12:46:08 AM PST by shibumi (Health and well being for S. and L. - in Jesus name we pray!)
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To: phi11yguy19

Can you say: communists?

Can you say: The equivalent of book-burning without all the ash to clean up and the smoke to “pollute” “mother Earth”?

Preventing this is worth a real war. But that’s me, the new “extremist”.

Americans, you will let them get away with this at your own peril.


63 posted on 02/04/2010 1:01:01 AM PST by Boucheau
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To: phi11yguy19

WTF??


64 posted on 02/04/2010 1:17:03 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: phi11yguy19

I’m not an American but even I know it’s impossible to understand America without studying the war of Independence and (even more importantly) the Civil War.


65 posted on 02/04/2010 1:29:13 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: phi11yguy19

This is not news...I am a high school history teacher (private) in Texas and the state of texas has had those guidelines for years....the students take u.s. history til 1877 in the 8th grade....and 9th grade picks up where 8th grade left off...10th grade is world history and 11th is World Geography...12th of course govt and economics... the split in u.s. history is b/c there isn’t enough time in 1 year to cram in all u.s. history and do it justice....

Still...homeschool or private is the way to go... public school stopped teaching real history years ago...I can promise you that my students know the Constitution inside and out by the time they graduate...

side note: History has been shoved aside for years and math and science given priorities....about 3 years ago I finally told our principal then that those 2 are NOT the most important subjects....history is.....b/c if you don’t learn it and end up w/socialism/communism here how great you are in math and science doesn’t mean diddly squat....you’ll still be a bottom class slave....


66 posted on 02/04/2010 3:06:12 AM PST by DrewsMum (Looking for the bumper sticker that says "My Child is an Honor Student, but my President is a Moron")
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To: phi11yguy19
From the article:

Under the proposed change, the ninth-graders would take a course called global studies, focusing in part on issues such as the environment. The 10th grade still would study civics and economics, but 11th-graders would take U.S. history only from 1877 onward.

So, studying about the environment trumps the Revolutionary War?
67 posted on 02/04/2010 3:19:38 AM PST by Girlene (obama has the stink)
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To: phi11yguy19

As an NC resident, I can tell you all that the idiocy of the NC Educrats knows NO bounds.


68 posted on 02/04/2010 3:28:31 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: phi11yguy19

I had a history class in 8th grade that was world history beginning with the era of Bismark. The book we used was actually a British textbook. We learned a great deal about things such as the rise of the Second Reich, Boer War, Boxer Rebellion, Russo-Japanese War, WWI, the treaty of Versailles, Attaturk, the Russian Revolution, Sun-yat-sen and Chiang-ki-shek and Mao-tse-tung, Israel, the Spanish Civil War, and so much else not covered in uual history classes. Of course 9th grade was art and music history, 10th was world history and 11th was US history.


69 posted on 02/04/2010 3:44:24 AM PST by bobjam
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To: phi11yguy19

ah just get after the supposed reconstruction stopped

what utter crap, history is history and it is now up to us as parents to teach this history not some recently graduated snotty nosed student from college


70 posted on 02/04/2010 4:43:03 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: La Lydia

can’t teach about the war for southern independence , a war where over a half millions died.

WTH .

maybe they don’t like some knowing the truth about the war at all.

this is just plain insanity and it’s high time we got organised like the left is and call these idiots who make these decisions.


71 posted on 02/04/2010 4:48:18 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: C19fan

said the same

reconstruction for the south was a horrible time where southerners had their land taken, raped, robbed etc

maybe they don’t like those in NC knowing the truth and how their ancestors were abused

there’s a reason why they did this and a reason why they picked those dates and it is high time we made them answer


72 posted on 02/04/2010 4:50:15 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: phi11yguy19

So does this mean that I won’t have to hear about slavery and how white people suck and need to pay for it anymore?....Nah, I didn’t think so.


73 posted on 02/04/2010 5:08:02 AM PST by ladyvet (WOLVERINES!!!!!)
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To: Schwaeky

“... idk bout ...” I am not sure I would go around holding up the school that taught you to communicate clearly as a model system. High school students should be taught about the causes of our Revolutionary War. They should be taught the philosophy underlying our Declaration of Independence and Constitution (and in the context of what else was going on in the world) on the high school level (or above if they have AP classes). Middle school is an appropriate level to learn the basic facts, dates, personalities; high school is where they should learn the why these events happened, how these documents came about, and the way they effect the way we live our lives to this day.


74 posted on 02/04/2010 5:22:06 AM PST by La Lydia
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To: RoadKingSE

wouldn’t want southerners to know about how they were treated like crap during the supposed reconstruction, or how the war affected their ancestors.
Nah but those battle flags away kids and stop thinking about what happened to your ancestors we’re here to tell you all about global warming.

How the hell can a country not teach their kids about how their country was founded or about a war which caused over a half million deaths.

maybe it’s time to pass law for NC to have confederate month where kids can now be taught about the war and the supposed reconstruction.
After all black history month is used for the past.
It’s about time we get onto these fools who make these decisions because of right now all they do is hide behind a desk in an office and talk to a handful of like minded folks.

It’s about time for parents to tell their kids about things like the war and get onto teachers about the way they teach along with joining PTA’s.


75 posted on 02/04/2010 5:23:46 AM PST by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/THE LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: SuperLuminal
You posted, “It was handed over (better yet, “surrendered”) officially in 1966 without a whimper.”

I'm not clear to what you refer.

76 posted on 02/04/2010 6:19:27 AM PST by starlifter (Sapor Amo Pullus)
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To: phi11yguy19
From personally looking through textbooks in the NC schools, I can tell you that they are filled with the most PC drivel that you will ever find.

For instance, if you look through a typical middle school English book, you will not find short stories or poems from American Literature, instead you will find short stories and poems from foreign nations, including those which bash capitalism and extol the virtues of socialism. You will find numerous poems and stories from foreign authors, and virtually nothing from Americans.

The NC education standards are horrendous and geared entirely toward brainwashing children in the "it takes a village" mindset.

77 posted on 02/04/2010 6:48:30 AM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: phi11yguy19

They are covering up the fact that Abraham Lincoln was a REPUBLICAN! LOL


78 posted on 02/04/2010 7:01:22 AM PST by left that other site (Your Mi'KMaq Paddy Whacky Bass Playing Biker Buddy)
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To: phi11yguy19

Don’t worry they’ll be shown a porn film and handed condoms after a “don’t tell your parents” sex seminar where they will be encouraged to try group sex and sex with strangers in bushes, ala Kevin Jennings.


79 posted on 02/04/2010 7:08:27 AM PST by GeronL (http://tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: phi11yguy19

Well, to be fair, the current crop of new teachers don’t know history, so how can they teach it?


80 posted on 02/04/2010 7:10:44 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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