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‘Fairness’ in Education (At a Berkeley high school, “equality” means fewer science teachers)
National Review ^ | 02/11/2010 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 02/10/2010 9:11:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 02/10/2010 9:11:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Once again public schools focus on the underachievers at the expense of the good students.


2 posted on 02/10/2010 9:15:44 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess it’s “fair” not to teach science to the general population of the schools because some students just don’t get it and have no interest in it. Basically, it boils down to the fact that some parents are embarrassed that other kids are smarter than their kids.


3 posted on 02/10/2010 9:16:48 AM PST by RC2
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To: SeekAndFind

Marxism rears its head once again, leading to the usual failure.


4 posted on 02/10/2010 9:17:40 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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They’re liberals. It’s the only thing that makes them feel like they matter, when they “support the underdog”, no matter whom it hurts.


5 posted on 02/10/2010 9:18:35 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Key phrase:

“In the language of the politically correct, achievement is equated with privilege. Such verbal sleight of hand evades the question whether individuals’ priorities and efforts affect outcomes, whether in education or in other endeavors.”


6 posted on 02/10/2010 9:19:19 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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The most ridiculous example of misapplied "fairness" I can think of was perpetrated by the company I work for. This company offered a "buyout" payment of $150 per month for persons who, for whatever reason, declined the company health insurance--in my case it was because I was already insured through my wife. A couple of years ago the company was forced to raise insurance premiums on employees using the company insurance. But to make it "fair" for all concerned, they actually decreased the amount of the buyout by $50 per month, not realizing that the people receiving the buyout were actually saving the company money by continuing to decline the company health insurance!
7 posted on 02/10/2010 9:19:20 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("Did I give you carbolic acid? I'd love to.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Ever since school integration, high schools have become bi-modal - ghetto trolls and the college bound enrolled in the same school. Then, the race hustlers bemoan the “gap” of achievement.

Berkeley’s move is simply the latest in the liberal quest to eliminate excellence in America through the dumbing down of public schools.


8 posted on 02/10/2010 9:21:58 AM PST by Darteaus94025
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The summer after 8th grade, I started taking summer school classes to accelerate the pace of my education. That summer, I took the required "science" class. It was fun and informative. The school was predominantly white and latino. That summer, we had one black male in the class. When the 2nd test of the session was returned, the sole black in the class claimed the test was "racist". It was simply too hard for him. My reaction was along the lines of "WTF"? It was a dirt simple test. If you can't do that one, you're way over your head in here.
9 posted on 02/10/2010 9:29:18 AM PST by Myrddin
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The liberals are the only thing creating the racial gap. If it weren’t for these idiots, children of every race would succeed together or fail together.

As usual, liberals are the source of every human problem.


10 posted on 02/10/2010 9:31:36 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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But to make it "fair" for all concerned, they actually decreased the amount of the buyout by $50 per month, not realizing that the people receiving the buyout were actually saving the company money by continuing to decline the company health insurance!

I certainly hope you helped them out by signing up. I can understand how the employer figured shifting the "buyout" money to soften the increase in premiums might make sense to the business. My company dropped the ESOP program and put the money into limiting health care insurance premiums. It is no surprise that employees are buying less stock now. Every choice has a consequence.

11 posted on 02/10/2010 9:34:00 AM PST by Myrddin
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At least the parents of that black kid put him in summer school to try and help him. He just didn’t want the help.


12 posted on 02/10/2010 9:35:26 AM PST by RC2
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To: SeekAndFind

Can teach children how to use the scientific method to prove something. Their scams to steal trillions of dollars under the guise of “Global Climate Change” would fall flat.


13 posted on 02/10/2010 9:42:14 AM PST by a fool in paradise ("like it or not, we have to have a financial system that is healthy and functioning" Obama 2/4/2010)
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The liberals are the only thing creating the racial gap. If it weren’t for these idiots, children of every race would succeed together or fail together.

I don't agree with that at all. Endless piles of money have been thrown at trying to "fix" the achievement gap between racial groups. It has persisted unchanged for the last 50 years. There are genetic, cultural, political and societal reasons behind the problem. If you cherry pick some individuals on the high end of the IQ curve and shelter them from the negative cultural influences, you might succeed. In the real world where the socialists force a room of mixed ability children together and teach to the the capability of the least capable child in the room, you get crappy results. Separate them by ability and teach of room full of similarly capable students. You'll get a better result. Intelligence is not improved by osmosis.

I do agree that you can create a room full of children that can all fail together. It is done daily in the public schools.

14 posted on 02/10/2010 9:46:14 AM PST by Myrddin
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15 posted on 02/10/2010 9:50:57 AM PST by pabianice
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If we could just incorporate rap into science education maybe things would get better.


16 posted on 02/10/2010 9:56:51 AM PST by animal172 (Can a girl with a mole on her face be happy married to a gopher?)
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To: Myrddin

Many schools still have teacher IAs pull low-achieving students out of class and have them work in small groups.

Unfortunately many districts across the country are laying off teachers and IAs so more money can go to useless programs which amount to nothing but restrictions on the curriculum. I hear teachers complain about this all the time. The people who actually care about the kids are not allowed to do their jobs.


17 posted on 02/10/2010 9:57:06 AM PST by Soothesayer (The United States of America Rest in Peace November 4 2008)
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Folks, I am not a rocket scientist, but can someone explain how a test can be racist?


18 posted on 02/10/2010 9:59:04 AM PST by animal172 (Can a girl with a mole on her face be happy married to a gopher?)
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Any test that has questions which refer to dead white men is both racist and sexist.

You are clearly in need of re-education.


19 posted on 02/10/2010 10:18:49 AM PST by BenKenobi (;)
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Is there a camp I can attend? If so, can I get a government subisdy to assist in tuiton?


20 posted on 02/10/2010 11:19:33 AM PST by animal172 (Can a girl with a mole on her face be happy married to a gopher?)
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