Breaking: Excerpts from Reconciliation Bill

Speaker of the House ^ | 3/15/2010 | Nancy Pelosi

[GQuagmire]

9 ‘‘(B) GRANDFATHERED HEALTH INSUR 10 ANCE COVERAGE; COVERAGE UNDER GRAND 11 FATHERED EMPLOYMENT-BASED HEALTH 12 PLAN.—Coverage under a grandfathered health 13 insurance coverage (as defined in subsection (a) 14 of section 102 of the America’s Affordable 15 Health Choices Act of 2009) or under a current 16 employment-based health plan (within the 17 meaning of subsection (b) of such section).


Those who now receive their health insurance through their employer(as I do, and btw it is excellent coverage) can kiss it goodbye if this ever comes to pass. I know the company I work for(very large company) will stop offering heath insurance if the public option is ever instituted.And BTW most if not all companies will do so ASAP.

[glide625]

And the U.S. is headed the way of Venezuela. I wonder how long before the guys and gals in the Military wake up to this and stop re-upping. (Or.....maybe they already have started).

[Datahead]

Just a small point here, but if this bill is born of fiat, which it appears it will be, then by definition it doesn’t matter what the bill states. Fiat states it can be anything they want it to be anytime they want it. That’s governance by fiat.

[tobyhill]

“(B) creates a new Health Insurance Ex18
change, with a public health insurance option
19 alongside private plans;”

Is the MSM going to report that there is a public option in the proposed bill?

[TomGuy]

Peter Johnson, Jr., commentator on FoxNews just said this morning [3-15-10, abt 7:25 a.m. CT] that there is no bill to examine yet.

Surely, FoxNews is aware of the bill linked on this website. So, is this bill the actual bill?

==

I may have mis-heard him, as I’ve only finished 1/2 a cup of coffee.

[GUNGAGALUNGA]

We’re cooked

Pray early and often.

[dforest]

I just heard on FOX that the Cornhusker kickback, Louisiana purchase abd the Gator Aide is still in there. Most likely more dirty deals to lib states are also in there.

I can’t believe this is happening. This is so wrong. What is right about some states having to pay for other states because of backroom deals?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Here are some results FReepers found reg. the document dump:

Summary Version:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1072#1072

Long Version:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2437390/posts?page=1075#1075

Toll free numbers to contact congress:
1-800-828-0498, 1-866-220-0044, 1-866-338-1015, 1-877-851-6437, 1-877-210-5351

Notwithstanding’s detailed posts of the Obama-care Document Dump:

Both posts are focused on this:

Page 7 TITLE IV—AMENDMENTS TO INTERNAL REVENUE CODE OF 1986

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2471082/posts?page=305#305
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2471156/posts?page=2#2

For future posts by Nothwithstanding:
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:notwithstanding/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

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The REAL short summary is this:

“The content of any final bill is irrelevant. Any federal version of health care on its face is unconstitutional since Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution does not specifically grant Congress the power to regulate health care. The people are not bound to comply with any unconstitutional act of Congress. This is the point people need to be driving home with their Congress critters!” — Man50D. Right, it is unconstitutional because it is not enumerated.

But [sigh], since we know they will pretend it is constitutional ...

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From forbes:
“The combined unfunded liabilities of Medicare and Social Security—the federal health care and the pension programs for the elderly—are $107 trillion, seven times the current GDP. Meanwhile, Medicaid, the joint federal-state health insurance program, is consuming on average 21% of state budgets, their single biggest ticket item even before ObamaCare dumps another 16 million people into the program, expanding the Medicaid population by 25%. Beyond that, state and local government have promised their employees a trillion dollars more in pension and other benefits than they have funds to deliver. “
— Blonde
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2471082/posts?page=309#309

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On a positive note, I only found 25 instances of the word ‘Diversity’.
— ComputerGuy

Nothwithstanding did some particularly detailed reposting:
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:notwithstanding/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

“Wordsearch: “family planning” = 18 times.” — TexasNative2000
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2471082/posts?page=24#24

TexasNative2000: “Wordsearch: “tax” and/or “taxes” = 183 times.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2471082/posts?page=20#20

Page 2084:

(3) BEHAVIORAL CHANGE COMPONENT.—A behavioral change component which provides for alter
ing employee lifestyles to encourage healthy living
through counseling, seminars, on-line programs, or
self-help materials which provide technical assistance
2084
•J. 55–345
1 and problem solving skills. such component may in
clude programs relating to—
3 (A) tobacco use;
4 (B) obesity;
5 (C) stress management;
6 (D) physical fitness;
7 (E) nutrition;
8 (F) substance abuse;
9 (G) depression; and
10 (H) mental health promotion (including
11 anxiety).

— RandallFlagg
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2471082/posts?page=10#10

preview of the student loan component
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/03/14/big-government-burrito-a-taste-of-the-2309-pg-demcarestudent-loan-reconciliation-bill/

This is actually the “shell” bill that Paul Ryan warned about:
http://spectator.org/blog/2010/03/11/ryan-dems-ramming-shell-hc-bil

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“SCHOOL BASED HEALTH CLINICS”

From page 1011: (SBHC= School based health clinic)
COMPREHENSIVE PRIMARY HEALTH SERVICES.
The term ‘comprehensive primary health services’ means the core services offered by SBHCs, which shall include the following:

PHYSICAL.—Comprehensive health assessments, diagnosis, and treatment of minor, acute, and chronic medical conditions and referrals to, and follow-up for, specialty care.

MENTAL HEALTH.—Mental health assessments, crisis intervention, counseling, treatment, and referral to a continuum of services including emergency psychiatric care, community support programs, inpatient care, and outpatient programs.

OPTIONAL SERVICES.—Additional services, which may include oral health, social, and age-appropriate health education services, including nutritional counseling.

Looks like Planned Parenthood and Kevin Jennings type “age-appropriate health education services” are coming to a school near all of us if this passes. Oh yeah...and it looks like they will be screening kids for “mental illness” too.

Brugmansian
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2471082/posts?page=124#124

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Buried in the techno-babble here: “public health insurance option”
— combat_boots
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2471082/posts?page=179#179

SEC. 343. ADVISORY COUNCIL ON GREEN, HIGH-PERFORMING PUBLIC SCHOOL FACILITIES.
[A quote of Michelle Malkin.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2471082/posts?page=182#182

Health workforce includes veterinarians
— combat_boots
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2471082/posts?page=197#197

End of Life Language — combat_boots
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2471082/posts?page=191#191

student loan [bs] starts @ page 2098

“Democrats release 2300-page reconciliation bill *Updated*”
http://www.redstate.com/bs/2010/03/14/breaking-democrats-release-2300-page-reconciliation-bill-with-a-public-option/

“And it appears they’ve decided to go all-in on this one. Included in the bill appears to be the “public option” that was removed from the Senate bill. From page 1167 of the bill ...

page 2110, on College Loans:
PART E—COLLEGE ACCESS AND COMPLETION

[The next looks particularly sloppy — I posted a question to combat_boots if it’s a typo by a staffer? Might be to hide the key word.]

‘‘(c) HEALTH PROFESSIONS TRAINING FOR DIVER7
SITY

— combat_boots
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2471082/posts?page=198#198

combat_boots: “Oh, and what is the Health Service Trust mentioned pp 1986ff?”

[PSYCHO-FREEP]

There is also a clause in the bill which gives the “Secretary” full decision powers to define and determine the details of what the bill provides or will require. Which in effect, sidesteps any further Congressional authority. Any fees, increases, taxes, rules, regulations etc, which are vital to the bill will be within the powers of this “Secretary” to decide and execute further mandates as deemed necessary.

[tobyhill]

Page 2241

(5) LEED GREEN BUILDING RATING SYSTEM.—
2 The term ‘‘LEED Green Building Rating System’’
3 means the United States Green Building Council
4 Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design
5 green building rating standard referred to as the
6 LEED Green Building Rating System.

What the hell does “going green” have to do with healthcare?

[tobyhill]

“(J) Installation or upgrading of renewable
4 energy generation and heating systems, includ5
ing solar, photovoltaic, wind, biomass (including
6 wood pellet and woody biomass), waste-to-en7
ergy, solar-thermal and geothermal systems,
8 and energy audits.
9 (K) Other modernization, renovation, or
10 repair projects that are primarily for instruc11
tion, research, or student housing.
12 (L) Required environmental remediation
13 related to modernization, renovation, or repair
14 described in subparagraphs (A) through (K).
15 (2) GREEN SCHOOL REQUIREMENT.—A commu16
nity college receiving assistance through a loan de17
scribed in subsection (a)(1)(A), a capital campaign
18 described in subsection (a)(1)(B), or a loan from a
19 revolving loan fund described in subsection (a)(1)(C)
20 shall use not less than 50 percent of such assistance
21 to carry out projects for construction, moderniza22
tion, renovation, or repair that are certified, verified,
23 or consistent with the applicable provisions of—

[Rational Thought]

No....we're not.

Obama has issued a challenge to us, stating, “I don’t get worn down; I wear them down.”

In the words of A Real Leader, “Bring It On.”

[cycle of discernment]

As I understand it, this ‘move’ is a massive distraction—they intend to empty the contents of this bill, after it moves through certain procedural hurdles—only keeping the “container” and then populate it with all the goodies of their own choosing, bypassing VOTING on those goodies.

This is Zorro in the night. The highest art of “now you see it, now you don’t”.

Soon you don’t know, remember, or have any clear grasp on what you did see, or what was a murky mirage.

YES! And that moment of the deepest fog is the sweet spot for dems to push it through.

It should be illegal.

[avacado]

That’s the House bill. I thought they were going to pass the Senate bill?

[waxer1]

My boss is a small business owner. She pays for our heatlthcare insurance. If this passes she will have to drop it.

I will not participate in this. I am declaring this right now. I will go to jail rather than bend to this crap.

[Ann Archy]

Thanks for the link to the entire budget!!

[tobyhill]

‘‘(5) RELIGIOUS CONSCIENCE EXEMPTION.—
20 ‘‘(A) IN GENERAL.—Subsection (a) shall
21 not apply to any individual (and any qualifying
22 child residing with such individual) for any pe23
riod if such individual has in effect an exemp24
tion which certifies that such individual is a
25 member of a recognized religious sect or divi171
•J. 55–345
1 sion thereof described in section 1402(g)(1) and
2 an adherent of established tenets or teachings
3 of such sect or division as described in such sec4
tion.

Now certain religions are exempt from criminal penalties?

[johniegrad]

1254

1 tion to any other tax imposed by this subtitle) a tax equal
2 to—

3 ‘‘(1) 1 percent of so much of the modified ad
4 justed gross income of the taxpayer as exceeds
5 $350,000 but does not exceed $500,000,

6 ‘‘(2) 1.5 percent of so much of the modified ad
7 justed gross income of the taxpayer as exceeds
8 $500,000 but does not exceed $1,000,000, and

9 ‘‘(3) 5.4 percent of so much of the modified ad
10 justed gross income of the taxpayer as exceeds
11 $1,000,000.

Outrageous.

[tobyhill]

QUIRED.—Every person required to make a return under
17 subsection (a) shall furnish to each primary insured whose
18 name is required to be set forth in such return a written
19 statement showing—
20 ‘‘(1) the name and address of the person re21
quired to make such return and the phone number
22 of the information contact for such person, and
23 ‘‘(2) the information required to be shown on
24 the return with respect to such individual.

So now the Government want your phone number so they can track you at every turn.

[DBrow]

Hmm, can’t find Section 1402(g), search function cannot find it. So we can’t find out what a recognized religions group is.