Posted on 04/08/2010 6:56:47 AM PDT by NYer
If China and India had not instituted a “one couple, one child” policies decades ago, the populations of both China and India would probably be hitting 2 billion each by now. Remember, China was a really poor country at the time. They just didn't have enough resources to fully support such huge populations. In India the poor were not using birth control enough back in the day, and just kept pumping out children.
It makes sense that every couple practice birth control(condoms etc) and have children when they can afford to give the child a good start in life.
This is hilarious! White people as a whole are only interested in having maybe 1 to 4 children. Leftists only are having none to 1, maybe 2. Conservatives are having maybe 2 to 3 children on average. Third worlders about 4 to 5 on average.
If Conservatives want to win this fight the only way to do is through both quantity and quality. Make it a goal to have 5 children and make sure you teach them a conservative way of life.
Global warming is a joke - this IS the issue we will face 20 - 50 years in the future.
I’ve done my homework there are some scary facts.
The current white replacement rate is WELL below 2.1 in the USA more like 1.8 (say goodbye to our culture here.) The Hispanic population used to raise it to level replacement rates, and now that isn’t even enough.
Programs and dependency on youth is very much in danger, as well as the future of our country because of liberal mindset of entitlements - all based on the working class paying for Soc Sec., Medicare, Schools, and the list goes on.
Liberal idiots continue to pedal “overpopulation” which, like AGW, is simply a pipeline to institute global governance. This, along with immigration are two huge issues the USA is facing, yet unwilling to address.
Muslims will soon reach 50% population in some European countries because they are having many more children then non-immigrants. Birth rates in EVERY European country are well below replacement rate when immigrants are removed from the equation, some, like Germany, are below 1.5.
Muslims only need to be patient, and continue the status quo, and Sharia will soon be reality in the west.
You said it!
Keep in mind that the "one child policy" is often not adhered to in the Chinese countryside, where it is common to have many "off the books" children. Some estimates suggest that the figures we have for China's population are actually 10-20% too low.
Also, I would call into question some of your other assertions. China's is not necessarily "one of the strongest economies on the planet." It is, in fact, quite fragile, and dependent upon foreign exports and an influx of foreign capital to take advantage of...drum roll please...it's large supply of cheap, expendable labour. Indigenous Chinese capital development has been very slow in coming, outside of a few "showcase" cities like Shanghai.
The Chinese economic picture is a lot like that of the Soviet Union in the 1930-1950s. Back then, informed opinion was convinced that the Soviets were the wave of the future since, hey, their economy was growing 10% a year. Of course, it really all boiled down to a matter of perspective - when you start with little, you don't have to do all that much to rack up some impressive numbers. Stalin's program of enforced industrialisation actually was successful in creating a large-scale industrial base where one had not previously existed. The Soviets saw huge numbers because they were basically taking what England and the USA had done over the course of a hundred years, and squeezing it into 30.
That's what China has been doing. They've been rapidly industrialising, so their numbers look good on paper. However, they're enduring all the same issues of environmental devastation, rapid urban influx of a previously rural population, and social instabilities that come with enforced industrialisation over a short period of time. The Soviets dealt with troublemakers by shooting them, thereby suppressing the tendencies in their situation. The Chinese, despite their reputation, don't seem to do that quite so much, and therefore have had more openly manifested social strife, despite the efforts of the state media to ignore it.
China's situation is delicate, and I am not at all convinced that China is destined to be the next superpower, nor am I convinced that the PRC is as monolithically stable as it is reputed. I'm not saying it'll fall apart into another Warring States-type period, but i would expect trends towards local autonomy to accelerate as the central government fails to deal with the many local grievances against the Party that continue to crop up.
FWIW, my money would be on India as the next Asian colossus. It has a huge population, cheap labour pool, rapid industrialisation,and growing military power as well. It also has something China does not - a reasonably free, consensual government that allows citizens to "blow off steam" via the electoral process, and which more readily allows for the exercise of personal liberties that are necessary for true entrepreneurialism and the emergence of a broad-based middle class that are necessary for a truly sound economy.
Funniest line in the whole damn movie [as Clevon marches out from the stadium with 4 cheerleaders] “I’m gonna @$%K all y’all!” Then the ‘family tree’ starts madly popping out new branches...funny.
True.
“There have been some other changes in China that have affected their economy.”
Of course. But then not having every couple pop out 5 or 6 children definitely helped China's economy grow faster. The government didn't have to build all these huge numbers of new schools, hospitals etc for the extra maybe 600 million people they would have had by now if they hadn't launched campaign to get couples to have fewer children
” Having too many men for the number of women is going to be a problem - not just for China,”
I never said I supported abortions, ever. We are talking preventive birth control, whereby the couple take steps not to get pregnant till they can afford to look after their child properly.
“control but for the rest of the world. Imagine a rich China with plenty of single men to serve in the military.”
Look, as countries get richer, they have fewer children anyway, maybe because they have other things to entertain them apart from sex. China's gender gap will work itself out in the next few decades.
Plus there is a lot of corruption in China as well. They also have problems with their Muslims as well.
Click on the link to PRI posted above. They provide solid statistics. Overpopulation is a myth, just like global warming, dreamed up to justify abortion.
Well, it's not so much China that will pay dearly for this as it is the other countries around China who may.
Christian homeschooling families usually have more than 4 children (most I know have at least 6, with some in the 13 range),
this would be both your “quantity” and “quality”.
I know of one pastor up in CT who has 14 kids.
Gotta watch “Idiocracy.”
Don’t fall for the “overpopulation is China/India’s problem”.
It’s not. If they had a free society based on Judeo-Christian values, such huge populations would be a HUGE ASSET.
Imagine all those people working freely to better themselves and raising everyone else’s standard of living along with them.
This is the same false argument used by many European nations. For example, a new report issued in March has revealed that 53.4 per cent of Italian families have no children. The report said that 21.9 per cent of households have only one child and just 19 per cent have two. While mass immigration contributes to Italy’s population growth, the country’s rock-bottom fertility rate of 1.31 children born per woman has resulted in a largely childless and aging nation.
Up until recently, the US was holding its own. That is no longer the case and my reason for posting this thread.
A man that I had been dating come from a family of 4.
I know, I was just trying to put a little humor into some of this. Hence the Goldilocks reference.
:-)
That is not likely to be the case, Margaret Sanger and Planned Parenthood, have made Hispanics and Blacks their target.
Illegal aliens is another matter altogether read this article on the Social Security’s ,Earning Suspense File.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/02/ss_secret_stash.html
You are absolutely right! And what was once true for Eastern Europe is now the situation in Western Europe. A recent report has revealed that 53.4 per cent of Italian families have no children. The report said that 21.9 per cent of households have only one child and just 19 per cent have two. While mass immigration contributes to Italy’s population growth, the country’s rock-bottom fertility rate of 1.31 children born per woman has resulted in a largely childless and aging nation.
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