Posted on 06/08/2010 5:53:41 AM PDT by reaganaut1
You had attractive girls in engineering school????
My niece is tall, blonde, pretty and thin, and just finished her sophomore year in engineering. She’s doing an engineering internship this summer in Cleveland. On week one on the job she had some old coot hitting on her— her male boss said she had every right to have the old coot written up for sexual harassment but she just laughed it off. She’s going to make a fine engineer.
Yes, there's the flip side of "tons of women" from up above.
The odds are good, but the goods are odd.
Entirely right and well said. All too many Freepers agree with you until it comes to the issues of more female undergrads, more boys in special ed, etc..
I respectfully disagree. I was never very good at learning from a lecture setting but I was the one everyone went to for class science projects.
There is no better way to learn wetlab or engineering skills than actually solving problems. Lectures are just the necessary background.
But everyone’s child is not a precious little dear that needs to be catered to.
“Oh Johny doesn't listen to the lectures, he is more of a ‘hands on’ child.”
Back when education was more “one size fits all”, education was much better in terms of actual knowledge and academic achievement, although less good in terms of feeeeeeelings and self esteem.
Well I didn’t go there but I have family who did.
They are an amazingly rare occurrence but they do exist.
Well ya but that’s not what I was getting at.
A person doesn't need to be Mr. Atlas to lift a ten pound bag of sugar. So...When it comes to math it depends upon the job that needs to be done.
Is the girl smart enough in math to be a physician? Can she be a chemist, engineer, or physicist? Obviously, there are many women who are strong enough in math to lift the “ten pound bag of sugar” in these fields.
But...As we get into the rarified air of the highest levels of theoretical mathematics we will see fewer women.
By the way...My two homeschooled daughters earned B.S. degrees in mathematics at the very young ages of 18. The older of the two as a graduate student in math was already teaching college students when she was a mere slip of a young woman ( age 18.) She earned a masters in math at 20.
What you actually have evidence of is reverse gender bias. Government education and higher education is hell for boys.
There is little doubt that this pervasive trend is not the result of some ‘bias’, either for or against either girls or boys; but the result of inherent characteristics of both boys and girls.
Boys usually do better on tests. Girls usually do better schoolwork. The sexes complement each other.
As a mom to two daughters, I have VERY strong feelings on this subject. My 10 year old daughter has great math skills and is in the “higher” math. However, most girls (thanks to schools) are ignored when they are strong in math and science. I have read that girls who are strong in math and science start to doubt their own natural ability by middle school and it is gone by high school. Their “natural” or “societal approved” talents like nurturing are focused upon. My daughter was told she would make a great “math teacher”. She wasn’t told she would make a great doctor, scientist, etc... With daughters, it is a constant parent nightmare to override teachers comments.
“How do they expect to get more girls into science when both boys and girls are being taught that emotion is the same as reason?”
Worth a BTTT.
Schoolwork? Busywork. The point is that education has become pathologically feminized. What is rewarded in schools has relatively little to do with intelligence or intellectual achievement. Boys hate it and ate dropping out.
No child should be in a government school, particularly boys.
That’s one of the reasons why I homeschool.
They could not meet the needs of my kids. My older one has ADD and was faltering because of it. They wouldn’t let the younger one go ahead. At home, we let them go at their own pace and it worked.
Confidence is something I don’t have to worry about with the young one.
Dad taught her that.
Teenage boys go through the same thing with English and writing skills, but the government doesn’t really care about them.
Discussing the current 60/40 split of women over men in college is verbotten.
In fact when I was talking about the fact that “equality” has been reached and surpassed, the woman said now we are in “pay back time”. (the subject was for-girls-only-scholarships are allowed and how for-men-only-scholarships are not allowed.)
Schoolwork is only busywork if you have completely mastered the subject. The scholastic level of our school children show that very very few have mastered ANY subject.
‘Back in the day’, discipline, rigor, and hard work were the norm. As we have deviated from that standard, so has our academic excellence.
but what do you do with women teachers who hate men and see all little boys as just future male troublemakers.
Of course these are the same ones who don’t want computers doing the teaching in the classroom.
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