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Real Sherrod Story Still Untold
The American Thinker ^ | 7-30-10 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 07/30/2010 4:05:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

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To: MozarkDawg

Yes. And you can bet the younger generation knows the difference because of You Tube etc.


61 posted on 07/30/2010 7:10:09 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: bvw

As a person who has worked in film and video, I don’t agree.
An experpt is a section that remains unaltered. Something that has been editied has been changed — they have taken awsay something someone said, or even inserted something that was not in the original piece.

I was once interviewed for a t.v. news piece, and I refuted what someone else had said. To refute them, I had to say what they said, so imagine that I said: “Mr Smith is completely wrong when he wrote ‘Socialism is the solution to all our problems’ because socialism destroys iniaitive and (etc. etc.) and then what comes out on TV is me saying “socialsm is the answer to all our problems” and nothing else in that train of thought. So it looks as if I am saying what was said by Mr Smith. Now, that is editing.


62 posted on 07/30/2010 7:11:50 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Never on my watch
Tapes? They still use tapes? With all of the government assistance they receive, they can't afford to go to DVR.

Who knows. But it was a plausible excuse for the gap. At least they think so.

Anyway, I thought the Breitbart recording was not from that source. If so, it should have recorded the missing piece.

Breitbart wasn't sent the whole thing. Only the 2 pieces that he posted.

63 posted on 07/30/2010 7:12:57 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: CajunConservative
Yes we need an edit button...

I have seen many threads hijacked by the punctuation and spelling police, when a simple correction is all that is required.

I don't know why, but some glaring errors that I have made only become apparent after the post is made (or the moment I hit the post button - oops).

64 posted on 07/30/2010 7:13:23 AM PDT by Never on my watch (The Obama Administration - an outrage a day)
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To: bvw

the dictionary says that refering to the written word. Film and video are soemthing else. See my previous post about when an interview I gav e was edited to make it look as if I said the opposite of what I did say.


65 posted on 07/30/2010 7:14:32 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: bvw

I agree that words have meaning. But in the area of film and video, the word “edit’ has come to mean something else.

And I would say that even for literature, there is a difference between an exerpt of a book (like when Truman Capote published a chapter of “Answered Prayers” in Esquire Magazine and when a piece is taken and sections of it are taken out and then put back together with later sections.


66 posted on 07/30/2010 7:19:52 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thank you, well-put. THat is exactly what edit now means — altered.


67 posted on 07/30/2010 7:21:26 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: CajunConservative
I agree that the Breitbart editing of the Sherrod video is the tip of the iceberg, whole story-wise. The Sherrod's, whether on purpose or by a mix of purpose and accident, have shown themselves masterful extortionists expert at using exaggerated claims of harms suffered due to purported racial bias.

Now you quit. Quit sticking up for idiocies.

68 posted on 07/30/2010 7:22:40 AM PDT by bvw
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To: kabumpo

You yourself gave a meandering yet somewhat understandable example of how pure excerpting could change the whole meaning of a extract. In fact the example you gave was about an audio/video edit, yet you expressed it all using the written word.

The words edit and excerpt apply to all media. Audio, video, imaging, written. They overlap in meaning.


69 posted on 07/30/2010 7:27:24 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Find a leftist article/column where the writer says the tape was ‘excerpted’ and not ‘edited’.....good luck.....


70 posted on 07/30/2010 7:29:15 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: bvw

Oh good grief, your need to be right is derailing the discussion.

Brietbart said he just posted the video that was given to him.

Focus on the issue, it’s pretty obvious that this incident will move the discussion to the desires of the administration to shut up conservative media. Remember the fat, racist, money grubbing famewhore was blaming Fox News and Glenn Beck for her firing from the beginning. The fact is that neither aired anything about this prior to her being canned.

The other nugget in the article is the fact that both she and her husband are both community organizers like the POtuS. She’s just doing what community organizers do.


71 posted on 07/30/2010 7:40:30 AM PDT by CajunConservative (0bama, your ass is the first one you need to kick.)
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To: John O
No, playing words to exacting sub-meanings, or claiming that the plain meaning meaning of words no longer applies because times have changed is a major and effective tactic of the social deconstructionists such as the Marxists.

For example the same Webster's 1913 dictionary I used above defines marriage as follows [excerpt]:

Legal union of a man and a woman for life, as husband and wife.

But the current Merriam-Webster gives the definition as follows:

(1) the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law
That's a whole lot of extra words. And they were added for a reason! The phrase "a person of the opposite sex" is distant, cold, strange and off-putting, isn't it? The old "a man and a woman" is much easier to read and means the same thing. Let me ask you, why use the word "person", rather than "man"?

Is it politically incorrect to be human these days?

And if they really want to be careful, why did they use the word "sex" rather than "gender"? Gender is the more specific in this context. But instead they used "sex."

The old school, clear and concise term used in 1913 was "legal union". Today Merriam-Webster uses the very long circumlocution "a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law". Why? Obviously, to me, or any sharp knowledgeable observer, there is A WHOLE LOT OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS goin' on 'round here.

Here's a clue.

The NEW MODERN definition of marriage leads into and supports a second wholly new meaning of the word in that Merriam-Webster:

(2) the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage

So, yes, I WILL INDEED complain when OUR SIDE ADOPTS policies of destructive word games that reinforce and empower that tactic when the social deconstructionists and Marxists use it.

72 posted on 07/30/2010 7:51:16 AM PDT by bvw
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To: CajunConservative

I see you here with a iron rod pulling up rail and you call me a derailler?

In fact I have some professional experience putting rails BACK ON the tracks. Do you?


73 posted on 07/30/2010 7:53:24 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Ask a younger person today what it means when you say "edited video". They've been on You Tube and other sites. They know what it means and it ain't "excerpt".

The press is playing word games to indict Breitbart. And you are defending the games.

74 posted on 07/30/2010 7:57:08 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: thethirddegree
The video was not edited; it was an excerpt.

Thank you...

75 posted on 07/30/2010 7:57:28 AM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (Bush: Mission Accomplished. Obama: Commission Accomplished.)
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To: gusopol3

That is actually very good news. Breitbart should get a team of lawyers together and bury this b*tch in discovery requests going all the way back to her days with Stokely Carmichael’s “black power” movement in the 60’s.


76 posted on 07/30/2010 8:09:00 AM PDT by conimbricenses (Red means run son, numbers add up to nothing.)
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To: bvw

Too bad there isn’t an ignore button either.

The story isn’t about editing or excerpting. It’s about the fact that she was canned from a job due to the whole Pigford lawsuit/ reparations issue. The administration probably didn’t really want this to come to light. Hence, the comments about Fox and Glenn Beck.

She was in charge of a slushfund of over 1 billion dollars. Her husband was on tape, saying they got about $15,000,000 out of the deal. Hello, focus here...


77 posted on 07/30/2010 8:12:21 AM PDT by CajunConservative (0bama, your ass is the first one you need to kick.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

” The left is trying to accuse Breitbart of editing/altering the clip. Being precise in language by stating it was an excerpt DOES matter.

The EXCERPT that he posted included Saint Shirley’s “mea culpa” which the NAACP did NOT applaud as they had her racism.”

Good to see someone else pointing this out. James Rosen was on the factor with Bill O’Reilly and mentioned this same point.

One that is not getting fair coverage by any news outlet....


78 posted on 07/30/2010 8:19:23 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: patriotspride
One that is not getting fair coverage by any news outlet....

Unfortunately there are even Freepers who don't get it.

79 posted on 07/30/2010 8:24:24 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Amen...............

Go Andrew


80 posted on 07/30/2010 8:29:54 AM PDT by patriotspride
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