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Texas Budget Mess Now as Bad as California's
The Texas Observer ^ | 07/08/2010 | Dave Mann

Posted on 08/01/2010 9:37:44 AM PDT by dragnet2

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To: dragnet2

My concern is you drag what seesm to be a left wing rag to FR and push it, obviously trying to make some anti-GovGoodhair point. Don’t get used by the left to push their message. Regardless of Rick, like him or not, we do not need the dems to get back in control.

Yes I have heard of the newspapers you mentioned, my question was on the “observer” even though the major newspapers are also dem/lib supporting. Maybe I should be asking “if you know who Molly Ivins is/was?” and why would you be pushing an opinion paper that dedicates a whole damn edition to her tribute?

And accept my apology for the billwhite thing.


81 posted on 08/01/2010 4:16:27 PM PDT by dusttoyou (Remember come November)
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To: txhurl
State employees get a 15% pay differential if they’re bi-lingual.

Of course...The pandering to Hispanics and Mexicans are endless...

82 posted on 08/01/2010 4:59:49 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

>>>>>Is this a lefty rag too?

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Texas budget shortfall widens to $18 billion (2011 ‘to be painful)

star-telegram.com 5/11/2010 DAVE MONTGOMERY<<<<<

Yes it is! The Startlegram and the Dallas Morning News are both ultra liberal and will print anything that can even slightly be spun to taint Republicans and Conservatives.


83 posted on 08/01/2010 5:31:50 PM PDT by octex
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To: octex

So all four Texas sources are liberal rags?

For a conservative state, ya sure have a lot of liberals down there.

lol...


84 posted on 08/01/2010 5:43:46 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: octex

>>>>The Startlegram and the Dallas Morning News are both ultra liberal and will print anything<<<<

Well, how about the the Houston Chronicle?:

Texas is facing $18 billion budget shortfall

Houston Chronicle

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7001539.html


85 posted on 08/01/2010 9:56:46 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

YES. All the newspapers in most of Texas are the same liberal dinosaurs as they are in most areas of the nation. It’s why they are dying.

It’s an industry-wide disease. In fact, it seems to me that you are using different papers more or less quoting the same feed article to assert that paper’s independent reputation re the article in question.

I live in a conservative district that voted 69% for McCain/Palin in 2008 and the major papers in the district all feel a tingle running up their legs when it comes to Chet Edwards (Nancy Pelosi’s pick for Obama’s VP and votes with her 97% of the time - like the Nancy’s boy he is).

Comparing the ideological slant of the newspaper industry with the area of the nation they represent doesn’t strike me as very productive argument in favor of the validity of an article given the reality that newspapers generally tend to a decidedly leftist slant.

Yes. THEY ARE ALL LIBERAL RAGS.


86 posted on 08/02/2010 12:39:05 AM PDT by ziravan ("Are you better off now than you were 4 trillion dollars ago?")
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To: dragnet2
You seem angry again...

A smile and a wink conveys anger?

You left-coasters sure have some strange perceptions. LOL

87 posted on 08/02/2010 12:57:50 AM PDT by Allegra (I am not humblegunner...and Pablo is very wily.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Very good posting that more accurately depicts the budget situation here in Texas as compared to the dismal situation that exists in CA; largely due to the unions and ultra liberals there. Texas also has $9 billion in reserve funds that can aid in balancing the budget and that $18 billion is a projection for several years in the future that does not take into consideration that our budget has to be balanced.

Highly paid bureaucrats that contribute little in value to running the engine of government or are involved in brainwashing students to accept socialist/Marxist ideals need to be terminated; thus, saving money and perhaps some young minds. ....Consider the “rulers” that were in Bell CA and how they were stealing from the taxpayers. Any of those here in Texas should be removed as quickly as possible and prosecuted if appropriate.

All of the media hype from the many liberal news sources in Texas are trying to spin facts to equate Perry to Arnold S. in CA as a sorry Governor because the LGBT and illegal crowds like White, the former mayor of a sanctuary city.


88 posted on 08/02/2010 1:35:08 AM PDT by octex
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To: dragnet2
I suggest ya drive by your schools you're being forced to pay more and more for, and see for yourself who these students are...I'd bet 65 percent of them are children of illegal aliens.

Actually, there aren't all that many illegals northeast of San Antonio, but with Robin Hood redistribution, that's not relevant. What I do see are plenty of fat, overpaid school district superintendants and top-heavy local government.

89 posted on 08/02/2010 4:06:49 AM PDT by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: Allegra
According to you, all the Texas newspapers and media are leftist and all 4 of the links provided here, from Texas, are all liberal rags...Is there a publication left in Texas that is not controlled by the liberal Communist?

Hell, even the link provided by people from Texas on this thread show Texas is facing $18 billion budget shortfall.

Are they too liberal?

90 posted on 08/02/2010 9:09:26 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: octex
that $18 billion is a projection for several years in the future that does not take into consideration that our budget has to be balanced.

That is why you need to start firing thousands of state government employees now.

91 posted on 08/02/2010 9:11:19 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

92 posted on 08/02/2010 9:57:54 AM PDT by Allegra (I am not humblegunner...and Pablo is very wily.)
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To: Allegra
It's pretty clear you get upset and angry every time someone posts something you don't like regarding Texas...

You've attacked me multiple times, acting as if I am the author.

I didn't write these news stories....lol

So why attack me?

And who do you think is responsible for this massive Texas budget shortfall?

93 posted on 08/02/2010 10:06:16 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
70% of the Women Who Gave Birth at Parkland Hospital in Dallas Are Illegals

Did you notice the source of this article was Snopes, and yet there was not a mention of them being a Liberal rag. Wonder why?

94 posted on 08/02/2010 10:21:53 AM PDT by Doe Eyes
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To: Doe Eyes
Good point... It would appear some only complain when it's something they don't care to disuses or see.

Fact is, like California, illegal aliens are probably one of the biggest factors affecting Texas schools, health care, budgets etc...This fact is pretty hard to ignore.

95 posted on 08/02/2010 10:44:22 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: octex; dragnet2

The $18 billion shortfall is for this fiscal year only not for several years into the future. The 2010 - 2011 fiscal year budget is $182 billion. The expected revenue for this fiscal year is $168 billion, which is less than what was projected when the budget was originally passed.

http://sunshinereview.org/index.php/Texas_state_budget

The next biennial budget will compensate for any shortfall we have at the end of the currently approved biennial budget. Texas does not have serious budget problems. We have a shortfall this fiscal year, which will be addressed as required with a balanced budget for the next two fiscal years.


96 posted on 08/02/2010 11:19:26 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: dragnet2
Fact is, like California, illegal aliens are probably one of the biggest factors affecting Texas schools, health care, budgets etc...This fact is pretty hard to ignore.

I can't speak for others on this thread, but I'm not disputing that fact. Illegals are definitely affecting our finances, in Texas and in California, but especially in Arizona.

What I (and seemingly others on this thread) take issue with is the faulty analysis in these articles. The authors imply that the $18 billion shortfall this fiscal year somehow means that Texas is facing long-term budget problems because of Gov. Perry's mismanagement of the budget. That's why others are dismissing these sources as "liberal rags" - because the analysis of the shortfall, which is not disputed in and of itself, is inaccurate and reads like partisan propaganda.

Texas had a $10 billion deficit in 2003, but we addressed it and balanced the budget as required by law. We'll address this $18 billion shortfall when the legislature meets next and have a balanced budget.

If I may ask, what is the basis of your argument with others on this thread? Are you saying that Texas does have budget problems as serious as California? What is it that you think they're ignoring?

97 posted on 08/02/2010 11:49:25 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Are you saying that Texas does have budget problems as serious as California?

That was the contention of the author of this article, who is basically saying that dramatic cuts in Texas state budgets are required, or else you'll be in the same boat as other states that are near bankrupt.

We'll address this $18 billion shortfall when the legislature meets next and have a balanced budget.

They have no choice....and they're choices are...Cut jobs, cut programs, cut health, raise fees, raise taxes, legalize gambling, cut school bugets, cut education etc, etc....

This isn't rocket science.

The Texas government spent too much money, and their taxes are not making up the difference...That is why they hole is growing deeper.....No?

98 posted on 08/02/2010 12:02:49 PM PDT by dragnet2
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That was the contention of the author of this article, who is basically saying that dramatic cuts in Texas state budgets are required, or else you'll be in the same boat as other states that are near bankrupt.

The author's contention that we're anywhere close to being near bankrupt is propaganda. Our rainy-day fund is projected to be $10.5 billion next fiscal year. What other near-bankrupt states have $10.5 billion in reserve funds?

This isn't rocket science.

Nope. Definitely not. Whether you're an individual or a state government, if you spend more than you make, there are only two possible ways to address the problem: increase your revenue and cut your spending.

The Texas government spent too much money, and their taxes are not making up the difference...That is why the hole is growing deeper.....No?

Not exactly. There are several factors contributing to the shortfall this fiscal year. Our required balanced budget doesn't allow us to intentionally over-spend. So run-away spending is not the issue. (That's not to say we don't need to cut spending.)

Some of the contributing factors are that Perry rejected approximately $1.5 billion in federal money. Sales tax revenue is down approximately $1 billion less than expected right now. We were hit with unexpected increases in border security and Disaster and Emergency service costs. (That's why we have a rainy-day fund.)

Here is our Republican Lt. Governor's take on the shortfall:

“I worry about the budget numbers and budget all of the time. I could see this coming. In April 2007, I showed what a brilliant politician I am,” Dewhurst joked while explaining how he recommended the legislature save money. “My Democrat friends wanted to spend the money on programs. My Republican friends wanted to send it back in the form of tax rebates. We needed to save money until the summer of 2008.”

And saving money is what the state has been doing with its rainy day fund. Right now, it’s estimated to be between $8.2 billion and $8.5 billion.

“We can expect that fund to be between $10.2 billion and $10.5 billion in the next biennium,” said Dewhurst, who also said the state will likely have to dip into the fund as it tries to balance the budget. There are signs today we need to draw down the rainy day fund. We need to draw down some funds to balance the budget in 2011.”

He was optimistic the state will be able to lessen the budget shortfall through agency spending cuts, and eventually restore any money used to the rainy day fund.

“I forecast we’ll have some rain in our future but we have to appropriately use the rainy day fund to draw down those funds.”


99 posted on 08/02/2010 1:16:11 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
The Texas government spent too much money, and their taxes are not making up the difference...That is why the hole is growing deeper.....No?

Not exactly. There are several factors contributing to the shortfall this fiscal year.

Look, these government machines run on tax money...They are either spending more than they take in, or they are receiving less money in the form of taxes. Or both!

In Texas it appears to be both, like in most other states now.

Again, the only way out, is to spend less, and cut services, jobs, programs, heath education, etc...Or they start raising taxes and fees etc...Not a good option.

Those that will be affect by this, will be making a lot of noise in the future...Ya heard it here first.

100 posted on 08/02/2010 1:57:58 PM PDT by dragnet2
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