Posted on 08/10/2010 6:33:33 AM PDT by wagglebee
This choice is between me and my physician[s]. I will NOT be told when to go. But I DO want to be told the truth of my situation. And I hope when the time comes I will not be begging to be kept breathing.
Too many people become pawns of the system: its not that they demand to be kept alive so much as the system refuses to let them go. But i certainly do not want a sysem to decide I ain’t worthy.
You tell me I have cancer, then keep me pain free and I’ll fade away. You tell me I have pneumonia, you better be marshalling resouces country wide to cure me.
Family death-panels? What happens to those with no family?
So let me see if I have this right:
If that was your month and a half of life we were talking about, you'd take a dive for your fellow man? Give up the ghost to save us a few bucks? How noble!
What about those of us who have already paid the government for the healthcare they now want to deny us? Should we just eat cake?
They want to make the decisions,
they have to be willing to receive the moral criticism.
They just can’t let themselves, however, let the people involved in the situation decide for themselves - that’s a “bigger evil” to them.
The left HATES that reality.
Nothing could be more offensive to a leftist than someone with means choosing to receive care that someone without those means could not choose.
Of course, they’ll never reach in their OWN pocket and pay for the poor person’s medical care.
My 83 year old Mother-in-law is in the final stages of Parkinson’s. Upon admission to the nursing home, she signed several directives about her end of life care. She is basically frozen and cannot move except for one finger. She has had several life threatening infections but when asked if she wants treatment she always says “yes.” We are now going on year three and she is going through all of her savings, which were targeted for care of her developmentally disabled daughter. Right now, medicare doesn’t pay for much of her care except for her medications. Everything is private pay until you spend all of your savings. She is miserable but is afraid to die. It’s her money though and she can spend it as she pleases. She gets very little joy out of life and complains constantly. She refuses to participate in anything. I admit to wondering “what’s the point?”. The care of her daughter will fall on me and will be a long term burden without extra cash assistance. Publicly funded group homes are now required to house mentally ill patients along with the developmentally disabled. I could go on... Suffice it to say it’s a big problem and until you experience it yourself, it’s hard to understand why something needs to be done.
Not only that, but it will be just the beginning of population control in the U.S. (Actually, it began with Roe v Wade in 1973)
It also will not require a "death panel". It will come to the point where one person will be able to determine who lives and who dies in any given situation.
I hope you live long enough to find the answer to that question. I hope you find the answer before it becomes an issue for the developmentally disabled lady in your care.
Suffice it to say it’s a big problem and until you experience it yourself, it’s hard to understand why something needs to be done.
Couldn’t see that one coming, could we?
Democrats all of a sudden are concerned about the costs of taking care of old people. When Lyndon Johnson signed this legislation in 1965 he surely knew what the future would bring. A person is not eligible for Medicare until they are 65 so can we have a big "Well, Duh!" on that?
You obviously missed the point - that is the whole “scandal” is self made by the health care industry - if they wouldn’t prescribe tons of unnecessary tests, hospital stays etc... (as shown repeatedly in the article) there would be MORE money left over to pay for the NECESSARY treatments!
It is the height of hypocracy for the “professionals” to, on the one side claim “sympathy” with the dying by stating that living the last days strapped in a bed and doped up is not “nobel” and at the same time order exactly that treatement - AND then have the balls to claim us patients need to make sacrifices if we want good care.
Method. They share the same ideology and goals. They worship the same demons. The end result is the same. They just choose different methods.
Obviously I did miss your point. Sorry about that.
I wonder if the doctors who deliberately squander resources are the same ones demanding human sacrifice to pay for their folly. I demand respect for life from the doctors my husband and I go to. Is it just coincidence that they don’t waste our insurance money on unnecessary procedures, or could it be a parallel character trait to a pro-life view? I wonder.
bump!
I saw this episode on CBS ...one of the interesting things the bureaucrat said was.. that we have to “ration “ care..BUT if you can pay for it yourself or if you have private insurance you can have all the treatment you want..
I had to LOL ..that is the out of the ruling class ..they can pay for it themselves
The rest of us just eat cake
However, they are trying to create a system where there won't be any private insurance and you won't have an option of paying for it yourself.
I've been talking to an ever-increasing number of people lately who are seriously researching what would be the best "back-up country" if it becomes necessary to leave.
Correct. I believe they’re trying to make it illegal.
Let me see if *I* have this right:
The medical profession is obliged to do appropriate work-up and care of a patient who is capable of making decisions and wants everything possible done, regardless of the “payday”.
Get the difference??
Read the article?
>The medical profession is obliged to do appropriate work-up and care of a patient who is capable of making decisions and wants everything possible done, regardless of the “payday”.
The key word - "appropriate". My comment was INAPPROPRIATE treatment, hospital stays , etc.. drive UP the cost of medical care so that now we are forced to reduce APPROPRIATE care because the person is "old". Eliminate the admitted waste and abuse in the system first ...
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