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Cleaner for the Environment, Not for the Dishes
NYT.com ^ | Sep 19, 2010 | Mireya Navarro

Posted on 09/20/2010 3:22:37 AM PDT by paudio

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Shouldn’t rely on a dishwasher to really clean your stuff anyway. It’s mostly just a sanitizer. Advice from a former disher, first, don’t overstuff your machine. If water can’t get to it, it won’t rinse clean. Second, rinse your plates, cups and bowls before you place them in the machine. We had top of the line machine in my previous and current home and neither can handle heavy stuff and forget pots and pans.


41 posted on 09/20/2010 5:01:25 AM PDT by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Can these people cross state lines to get phosphate detergents?

Sure, but they better read the labels. It appears that Cascade made the change globally; the phosphate-free version is all that's available in my area (a non-ban state).

42 posted on 09/20/2010 5:03:42 AM PDT by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: Florida native

So that’s what did it! I noticed that film and have been struggling for months to find something to remove it. They are almost etched with it.


43 posted on 09/20/2010 5:04:04 AM PDT by secret garden (Why procrastinate when you can perendinate?)
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To: newnhdad

Reading all the posts - this is what I learned.

Pre-wash your dishes (uses 8 gallons of water)

Place dishes in washer and turn it on (5 gallons of water)

If dishes are still dirty - wash again (5 gallons of water)

Repeat as necessary.

seems like a lot of wasted water;) LOL!!!!


44 posted on 09/20/2010 5:06:25 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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To: Vinnie

“A dog can help with the initial cleaning”.....lol sounds like a plan! OK everybody....listen up....here are the new “pre wash instructions” that came with the dishwasher: finish eating and then set your plates on the floor......wait 5 minutes than load into the dishwasher. lol Makes me glad I dont own a dishwasher. We use a lot of paper plates in my house.


45 posted on 09/20/2010 5:07:15 AM PDT by bohica1
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To: mewzilla

Yes and they don’t brake the dish.


46 posted on 09/20/2010 5:07:50 AM PDT by Vaduz
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http://1greengeneration.elementsintime.com/?p=314

Washing dishes by hand uses much more water than using a dishwasher. Using an ENERGY STAR qualified dishwasher instead of hand washing will save you annually 5,000 gallons of water, $40 in utility costs, and 230 hours of your time.


47 posted on 09/20/2010 5:09:04 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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To: sodpoodle

but it’s for the environment and the children.. speaking of which, when I was a kid, my parents had three dishwashers, of the two legged variety.


48 posted on 09/20/2010 5:10:50 AM PDT by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: VermiciousKnid
Of course they want you to use the little packets - they are something like 10x more expensive per ounce than powder or gel... (last time I looked)

I use Cascade in my dishwasher, haven't noticed a difference. Must not live in one of the 17 states that have screwed up consumers - again. Maybe I should load the pickup full of the good stuff and go sell it roadside in one of the 17???... :-)

49 posted on 09/20/2010 5:16:55 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (obama out now! I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom - you can keep the change.)
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To: mewzilla
LOL! Cats do an even better job :)/
Takes a lot longer.
50 posted on 09/20/2010 5:26:36 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

I’m in NY Thunder...drive that van around & I’ll buy the good stuff from ya.

Regards,


51 posted on 09/20/2010 5:29:25 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: dblshot; mewzilla
LOL! Cats do an even better job :)/

Takes a lot longer.

Depends on the size of the cat.


52 posted on 09/20/2010 5:33:49 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Michael Moore is Rosie O'Donnell in drag.)
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To: Hoodat

If we landfill those polystyrene plates (and all paper/plastic refuse) instead of recycling we could lock up all that nasty carbon for thousands, or dare I say it, perhaps millions of years. Recycling paper / plastic = bad for the environment. I can’t take the time to write any more. I need to get Al Gore on the phone.


53 posted on 09/20/2010 5:33:57 AM PDT by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: N. Theknow

That cat lives about 45 miles from me.........


54 posted on 09/20/2010 5:34:55 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Kill them all...let God sort them out.)
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To: Osage Orange
That cat lives about 45 miles from me.........

Good. Lotsa food before he gets to your house then.

Difference between dogs and cats:

If your dog weighed 100 more pounds, it would still look upon you as its best friend and master.

BUT

If your cat weighed 100 more pounds, it would look upon you as dinner.

55 posted on 09/20/2010 5:39:30 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Michael Moore is Rosie O'Donnell in drag.)
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To: bohica1

“A dog can help with the initial cleaning”.....

3 out of 3 dogs in my house would agree with you.


56 posted on 09/20/2010 5:44:04 AM PDT by LadyBuck (In the immortal words of Jean Paul Sartre, 'Au revoir, gopher')
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To: finnsheep

I recently bought a FisherPaykel top loader (my wife took the Bosch front loader when she left). It has two great features, among many: It calculates the optimum water level for each load and it has a super high speed spin like the front loaders.

So, I’m saving water, which saves money, and the clothes are merely damp when the washer finishes with them, which means the dryer doesn’t need to run as long to get the clothes dry, which saves money.

This washer cost me several hundred dollars less than a good front loader, like a Bosch or Samsung.

I use Persil detergent, which takes very little (1/8 cup for most loads) to wash a normal load. I use a bit less than 1/4 cup for a large dirty load, but that’s the max. So, the $40 box of Persil lasts several months. (That the box of Persil concentrate, BTW.)

I’m a guy who has never had to get involved in all this domestic stuff, so I’m learning day by day, but I’m satisfied with how the clothes and stuff comes out.


57 posted on 09/20/2010 5:46:04 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: paudio; All

Once again the Watermelons show they really want to return us to the seventh century when we all wallowed in our own filth.


58 posted on 09/20/2010 6:41:30 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: Vinnie
A dog can help with the initial cleaning. :)

My dishes are as clean as water can get them.

whistling Come here Water. Here boy. Good dog.

59 posted on 09/20/2010 6:45:11 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: Nitehawk0325
CFLs DO NOT last as long as the old bulbs.

I've had the same two CFLs in two outdoor fixtures for more than three years now. Where they are located is fairly protected from precipitation, but not heat or cold.

Also, I've only had to replace one indoor CFL in the last five years I've had them. I replaced a few of the old ones about 17 months ago, but that's because I replaced the fixtures with a different style, and the curly-cue bulbs wouldn't have looked good in the fixtures.

60 posted on 09/20/2010 6:57:34 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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